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I have registered on the subject forum, but there was a MikeH already there.
So if any of you guys frequent that forum, then MikeH isn't me, there. Or something like that.:confused:

Incidently, total turnaround on my GSR's trip back to SIG was 12 days, including transit. They advise that there is nothing wrong with the pistol. Weather permitting, tomorrow we'll see.

There are two possibilities, as far as I can see:

- The 150 rounds I fired was just enough to settle the gun in and clear up the feeding problems, or
- It is not going to function with Federal Hydroshock.

I am sure I am not limp-wristing it, as I am using the same tight Weaver that has always worked fine with my Colts and with a friend's Kimbers.

I am going to try some hardball tomorrow, and some more hydroshock, and maybe a different 230 grain hollowpoint.

Stay tuned.
 
I just got issued my new Sig 226 DAK and jammed 1 round out of 200+ I was not very happy about it considering my old 226 never jammed 1 out of around 3000 rounds!
 
The 1911 was designed for 230 grain ball ammo.

Hollow points were never considered, it's that Geneva Convention thing.

I'm sure SIG tested with ball.

The three areas that have a large effect on feeding are the barrel throat, the feed ramp and the magazine.

First you need to eliminate the magazine. If it always jams on the first round, last round, third round, etc. it's probably magazine related. If it's random look at where it's hanging up. It should be fairly obvious if it's hanging up on the feed ramp or the barrel throat. If it hangs up on the throat it might be caused by a too small feed ramp. Make sure you don't enlarge the barrel throat too much, if the case does not have enough support you have a much worse problem on your hands.

If it hangs up on the feed ramp look for machining marks or anything else that could snag the bullet. If it looks fine, double check the magazines. If it is a feed ramp problem, send it to a good smith, the feed ramp is part of the frame if you mess that up, you are screwed.
 
wash said:
The 1911 was designed for 230 grain ball ammo.

Hollow points were never considered, it's that Geneva Convention thing.
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Not to slap you too much, Wash, but you are wrong. It was the Hague Accord which outlawed "dum dum" bullets. The GunZone has an article on it.
 
I don't pretend to know alot about the sig 1911 product (even my carry is a p220), but in my past experiences with all the 1911's I've ever had I learned each one can really be it's own unique bitch. Some companies that produce stock customs like kimber or brown don't seem to have as much trouble eating a wider variety of ammo because the 1911 is just 'what they do'. It seems like some of those makers know that their customers are gonna wanna throw something wacky shit like black teflon coated blacktalons down the pipe of their piece. They do seem to handle that sort of thing better. This is not to say that you're not going to get the desired performance out of your pistol. I'd put a few hundred rounds through it and see where it goes from there. Being a Sig, I doubt you'd have to do much tuning up as far as polishing the feed ramp or any of the other crap if had to keep tinkering with to get my AMT Hardballer and a couple other models running smoothly. Also, in being a Sig, I have confidence things will work out for you even if minor 'tweaking' is required. Shit, who frowns over upgrades?


Hey, look on the brightside- at least it's not a Hardballer!
 
You could also probably get the feed ramp polished. Personally I carry harball in 1911 for edc, I've heard of too many legal problems with people using hollow point rounds for defense.
 
Bravado said:
Personally I carry harball in 1911 for edc, I've heard of too many legal problems with people using hollow point rounds for defense.
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WHAT????? You use MILITARY-TYPE AMMO????? That ammo's designed for one thing and one thing only-- to kill people. That's why I always use civilian hollow points, just like the cops. After all, cops wouldn't use evil ammunition designed to kill people, would they?
 
are other GSR owners having the same problem?
if so, find out how they're curing it; there may be some specific problem areas.

mr. wash pretty much covered it.. try to rule things out.. try to isolate causes.

Dunno what Sig's "exchange" policy is.. if any.. but inability to feed HPs would piss me off.

If failure to feed/go into battery.. you might try: (in order)
-polish feed ramp
-polish breech face
-polish inside top of chamber
-polish side of extractor claw
-polish magazine follower (if metal)
-polish inside of magazine feed lips

Maybe caused by aftermarket stuff? non-oem/old magazines? titanium guide rods? shock buffs? +1 extensions?

Ejection/extraction problems & double feeds will be harder to fix.

My old Auto Ordnance 1911 refused to feed Any kind of hollowpoints.. until i did a LOT of work to it..
My bro's brand new Sig 229 was a little tight & had a couple failures to feed out-of-the-box.. but was "cured" after ~150 rounds.

Is this the first year of manufacture of the GSR?
I try to avoid first year ANYthing! cars, guns, microsoft windows, etc..
Example: 1st gen Glocks had their share of feeding/ejection problems.. later gen Glocks had major revisions to many components to improve function.

Anyways.. good luck.
 
oh yeah.. what HydraShocks are you running?
the 230 gr? or 165 gr?

the 165 may be too light.. even though its terminal energy is the same or higher on paper.. but its lighter momentum may not be enough to properly cycle the slide/overcome the spring.
 
Bravado said:
You could also probably get the feed ramp polished. Personally I carry harball in 1911 for edc, I've heard of too many legal problems with people using hollow point rounds for defense.
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+2 on the hardball.

Federal match ammo is very nice.

My sig line expresses my attitude on the subject.

Rob
 
I'll suggest 3 things:
A dremel with a cloth (soft) wheel
Flitz
Ranger SXT Hollow points (The standard load should do the trick with a 5" barrel)

Polish your ramp and throat a bit but I wouldn't take any metal off...Sig is very good at what they do.
 
I always was under the impression that one of the main purposes for hollow point or expanding rounds, aside from causing extra soft target trauma, was to be absorbed by a would be evil doer and/or barriers- as to not harm anyone else collaterally.


Opposite intentions would explain why that Chinese steel core AK food is soo damn expensive!!
 
JohnTheTexican said:
WHAT????? You use MILITARY-TYPE AMMO????? That ammo's designed for one thing and one thing only-- to kill people. That's why I always use civilian hollow points, just like the cops. After all, cops wouldn't use evil ammunition designed to kill people, would they?
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LMAOROF....
 
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