1911 survival knives?

Hickory n steel

Hickory n steel

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What's the deal with those 1911 style survival knives that have the magazine survival compartment ?
I saw one somewhere and it really Interested me.
Are they just a gimmick, or are they a serious tool ?
If they are any good I'm sure I can't afford one, but I'm still interested.
 
I'm in the gimmick camp.

In my humble opinion, John Moses Browning designed the finest pistol ever made with the 1911.

But a comfortable knife handle the grip is not.

I'll stick with my Fallkniven F1.
marcinek said:
Maybe you can give us an example of what you are talking about. :confused:
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I am too lazy to search for a link, and it seems the OP didn't feel like it either, But it is a knife with the handle exactly the same as a 1911A1. The gun's grips as scales.

Pop the mag release and the "magazine" comes out for storage of odds and ends.
 
Todd21969 said:
I'm in the gimmick camp.

In my humble opinion, John Moses Browning designed the finest pistol ever made with the 1911.

But a comfortable knife handle the grip is not.

I am to lazy to search for a link, and it seems the OP didn't feel like it either, But it is a knife with the handle exactly the same as a 1911A1. The gun's grips as scales.

Pop the mag release and the "magazine" comes out for storage of odds and ends.
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Ah. Thanks. Sounds like form over function. That's the last thing I want from a "survival" knife.
 
Todd21969 said:
Yep.

Though you can put matching grips on your pistol and knife .Then post pictures on the net [emoji6]

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Well, looking good during "survival" is the most important part. "Matching" is always stylish.

I found an example and I wonder about the strength of the handle/blade join...It kinda has NO tang at all, and I can't imagine the whole thing is made of one piece of metal, like the CRK hollow handle knives. Maybe it is...
 
I'm not sure how to post a link with my phone, but I figured that they were something that had probably been a hot topic before and that everyone would K of what I'm talking about ( maybe I should do a forum Search )
 
Hickory n steel said:
but I figured that they were something that had probably been a hot topic before and that everyone would K of what I'm talking about
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More of a gun guy thing. Sort of an accessory for your pistol.

And I am a huge 1911 guy. I carry a bone stock 1911A1, you can't improve on perfection [emoji1]
 
Todd21969 said:
More of a gun guy thing. Sort of an accessory for your pistol.

And I am a huge 1911 guy. I carry a bone stock 1911A1, you can't improve on perfection [emoji1]
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I don't yet own a firearm, but I still agree and if John Moses browning was alive today I'd have him test run a Mag through the one that I'll eventually buy.

So does anyone know if the knives come from a quality manufacturer ?
 
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That is indeed interesting... I do not think I've seen that before. Definitely a bit of a gimmick though!
 
It looks interesting, but not something I'd buy.

This is how I do it.
 
I had a chance to handle one when I was in Fairbanks last year. Interesting design and definitely feels sturdy although not as comfortable as a Randall or a CRK survival style knife. I could definitely feel areas hot spots would develop over long term usage. YMMV
The magazine pops out like the pistol and contains a variety of items one might use/need in a pinch.
The blade join looks solid and according to the woman I spoke with(Mark's wife I believe) the stress test shows just how solid the construction on this knife is.
While it's not something I would ever purchase, esp at the price he lists, I believe some might have no issue with this knife.
 
I think a small 6"oal edc version would be awesome, and the Mag/storage could contain a spare AAA flashlight battery, an emergency 20$ , a couple band aids , then a few Alive's and claratins.
I'll never be able to afford one, but regardless I think they're awesome.
Can you just imagine someone putting a crimson trace later grip on one 😁😁

Nay he needs to make a knife with a hogue rubber revolver grip.
 
The blade stock is 3/16", which worsen the blade light feel of an 8" blade (serious survival choppers begin at 9.5"-10", and should be a full 1/4" stock): That being said, the Randall Model 14 is misleadingly claimed to be 1/4" stock, but is in fact also mostly 3/16" (tapers a bit thicker, but only very close to the handle), and with the nice-feeling finger grooves believe me when I say this comfortable seeming Randall handle makes it a spectacularly uncomfortable chopper...: The form-fitting handle means the shock has nowhere to go... A good slicing knife but the worst chopper in that size range I have ever experienced... The Model 14 is also claimed to be 7.5", but is usually 7.4", so I would say a true 8" blade is definitely better.

If your alternative choice is the Randall Model 14, and the edge holding turns out to be similar between them, I would definitely say this knife offers more than the Model 14... Even if the handle feels worse in initial handling, under hard use it cannot be worse than the finger grooved Randall handle (which I still love because it looks and feels so nice, as long as you are not chopping with it).

I did not realize the 1911 was an 8" knife: I assumed 7"... It definitely looks like a serious design, but it would be better with 1/4" stock. Still a very functional knife, which fully fills the Spec Ops sheath for once... The Spec Ops is a $60 value, and I would get it for all my Randalls anyway, so the 1911 is a really competitive knife with a Randall of similar size I would say... And it offers a really nifty handle feature at no loss in strength, quite the contrary...

The knife's weight is a rather imposing 21.5 ounces (A 10" Lile Mission is around 18-20 ounces), which I suspected from the strong construction, and is a significant drawback for a meager 8 inch blade... This could be an exaggeration due to the included Leatherman tool in the handle...

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The 7.4" Randall Model 14 is around 14 ounces, the Model 18 around 12 ounces, so 21.5 ounces is a significant drawback for an 8" blade only 3/16" in thickness: These are numbers that suggests a very blade-light feel. The pointy tip profile (which I am sure is still quite strong in cross-section) also contributes to this, so this knife has a very strong fighting-style feel to it, rather than the claimed survival style of balance: Not much effect in actual outcomes, but something to consider before being disappointed by the feel on delivery... The Randall Model 14 has the same handle-heavy balance anyway, but very likely less accentuated.

Gaston
 
Hickory n steel said:
, and the Mag/storage could contain a spare AAA flashlight battery, an emergency 20$ , a couple band aids , then a few Alive's and claratins.
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You have pockets? All that stuff , and more, will fit in them.

Strap a Mora( yuck, but they work) on your hip and call it good.

---Though I really, really hate Moras and would suggest a Fallkniven F1--[emoji4]
 
Todd21969 said:
You have pockets? All that stuff , and more, will fit in them.

Strap a Mora( yuck, but they work) on your hip and call it good.

---Though I really, really hate Moras and would suggest a Fallkniven F1--[emoji4]
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Well the F1 is a step forward from the Mora for sure... I'd still prefer the 1911 knife though...

Pills, matches, fishhooks, rope tinder, Gel crazy glue tubes, band-aids, all this tends not to do well inside soaked pockets...

Yeah I know there is always the altoids tin, but you know what? That can get crushed, and the hollow handle doesn't prevent you from carrying that either...

Not a round handle in this case, but I can tell you a round handle also chops a good deal better and doesn't vibrate your hand to pieces like the BK-9 either...

I grant you that this particular 1911 knife will likely feel heavy and odd... I think it would be much more useful with 2" more blade: The effect on weight would be negligible.

Gaston
 
Todd21969 said:
You have pockets? All that stuff , and more, will fit in them.

Strap a Mora( yuck, but they work) on your hip and call it good.

---Though I really, really hate Moras and would suggest a Fallkniven F1--[emoji4]
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Why fill a pocket up, when you can utilize space that you'd never have before
I just thought it would be cool, but probably not very practical.

I do not like to fill my pockets up with stuff, that's why I put my various small items in an edc belt pouch. My phone is only in my pocket because my case broke.
 
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