1980 Dixie Collection Thread (144UH and staglon LB-7)

[Codger_64]

"Christmas Edition"... Hmmm... Are we sure the paper matches the set? Still a neat find and something further to chase down. Every little bit helps. I wish there were a SMKW catalog archive for 1978-81.

 

[delmas2nd]

i tried to get it but was edged out. had to go to bed and gave it the bid that was beat. i hate that.

 

[Codger_64]

If you bid what it was worth to you, there is nothing to hate. It sold for more than you thought it was worth. Of course you could have used a sniper program. Still, they made more than one. Just keep your eyes open. And next time ask the seller for a closeup of that paper! :thumbup:

 

[Dave Thinkstoomuch]

Codger, I did drop the ball not asking for a better pic of the paper. Next time I surely will.

delmas2nd, there will be other sets but I here ya.

I believe that these sets came with two different box-tops because I've seen both "Christmas 1978" and "Limited Edition 1978" sets on eBay and Worthpoint. Here are some more examples:

North Carolina "Limited Edition" NC345:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/schrade-usa-limited-edition-north-carolina-2-knife

North Carolina "Christmas":
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1978-schrade-uncle-henry-ltd-edition-75444750
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/schrade-uncle-henry-1978-xmas-limited-ed-187-144


Tennessee "Christmas" TN697 with "The Old Faithful Companions" paperwork:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/uncle-henry-1978-christmas-edition-nos-by


Georgia "Limited":
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/uncle-henry-schrade-1978-limited-edition-boxed


Texas "Limited":
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/schrade-cutlery-1978-limited-edition-knife
(I can 100% recall one other Texas set on eBay I bid on with "Christmas" lid as well)

Here's another Georgia GA008 set with no lid but it DOES have "The Old Faithful Companions" paperwork:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/schrade-uncle-henry-made-in-usa-in-1978

I'm pretty well convinced that these sets are indeed "The Old Faithful Companions" (one) after finding two more examples.

Note that the paperwork with "The Old Faithful Companions" on it is the same piece of paper with the "Schrade Pledge". Next time I see that paper offered I will definitely find out what it says on it.

I know this evidence is anecdotal but it's still pretty strong. Cheers! ~Dave

 

[Codger_64]

Welp, these are all good finds. As to that paper though, it is possible that it was provided for, or added by the particular seller, one of the three previously listed. Interesting that the box titles varied, Christmas, Limited. Could that also have been per the merchants preferences?

 

[Dave Thinkstoomuch]

Welp, these are all good finds. As to that paper though, it is possible that it was provided for, or added by the particular seller, one of the three previously listed. Interesting that the box titles varied, Christmas, Limited. Could that also have been per the merchants preferences?

You never know if sellers "pad" their listings with incorrect paperwork or boxes etc so that is always a possibility.

I figured you can best sell Christmas offerings only at Christmas so they slapped that box-top on it for the month of December 1978 or so and sold the rest they had with the Limited Edition box-top. Just a guess...

 

[thawk]

You never know if sellers "pad" their listings with incorrect paperwork or boxes etc so that is always a possibility.

I figured you can best sell Christmas offerings only at Christmas so they slapped that box-top on it for the month of December 1978 or so and sold the rest they had with the Limited Edition box-top. Just a guess...

I recall when I had a South Carolina set, mine had the 1978 Christmas box too, but not the extra paper. And to your point on padding, I see it all the time.

 

[Larry303]

G'day Dave, just to cloud the issue somewhat. My North Carolina set I purchased many years ago when I first started collecting Schrades....folk did not tend to play around then with boxes and paperwork because Schrade was still trading.
I believe the contents of my 1978 North Carolina to be all original including all paperwork.
I photographed both sides of 'The Old Faithful Companions' which was inside my North Carolina Set together with LB8 and 144UH Replacement Policy Certificates It is really only a Schrade pledge and telling how they made them rather than referring to the two actual knives in the set.
Whilst the top of the box shows Uncle Henry Limited Edition 1978..the inside of top of box shows 1978 Christmas Edition. I believe anyone that owned any of the Dixie Editions can probably remember seeing the words Christmas Edition 1978 but not where they saw it which is actually inside the top of the box..<we all know what tricky dickys Schrade could be>....photos of the above attached.....back to the drawing board?......Hoo Roo

 

[Larry303]

couple more..

 

[Codger_64]

Thanks Larry. To my way of thinking, the 'The Old Faithful Companions' paper was not intended to convey a series name at all. Perhaps it was a part of the trade name used by the Imperial series, but in this instance, it was used like the other slogans such as "knives like Grandad used". They sometimes included this sheet, but not always. Or it was a popular superfluous item for first buyers to toss.

So we are back to two series names (1978 and 1980) and variations of the series box names. With three buyers, I can see where one of them likely bought some quantity of the sets to use as a Christmas promotion and had that extra gold foil stamp applied just for them. We may never know which buyer/merchant was which until examples are found which include original purchase receipts. Or until we find the advertisements.

 

[Ballenxj]

Dave, What a GREAT FIND!
Codger, Nice bit of history too.
-Bruce

 

[Dave Thinkstoomuch]

Thanks a lot Larry for posting the detailed pics. I hadn't noticed that "Christmas 1978" was on the inside of the box-top but after looking more closely at the examples I found that is true with them also. Do you have any other (different) Schrades from this period that came with the Old Faithful Companions paperwork?

Codger, do you agree that if "Old Faithful Companions II" came out in 1979 there had to be a Old Faithful Companions (one)?

I see the possibility that it is a motto but it's the 1979 set that makes me think it's a series name. I'm still thinking that unless we find different Schrade patterns from that period with the "Old Faithful" paperwork the preponderance of evidence implies it is the series name. Remember the Schrade name is on the 1979 box-top too. It's not just an Imperial offering.

I appreciate that we do need further proof to really pin down the official 1978 name though. Until then we can stick to calling them the "Dixie Edition" so we are all on the same page.

 

[Dave Thinkstoomuch]

I just bagged the "Capital" set from this series! Two down, two to go. It's in the mail :jerkit:

Here's a link to an example of the 144UH from the "Steamboat" set which wasn't previously pictured in this thread:

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/schrade-knife-144-uncle-henry-dixie-collection

When I get the Capital set I will post some scans.

 

[Dave Thinkstoomuch]

I now have acquired three out of the four Dixie Collection sets. The only one I still need is the steamboat set.

Until I compared the lockbacks with my own eyes I had missed that the etches are different on these as well as on the UH144s so you can tell which LB-7(8) goes with which 144 without matching the serial numbers.

Here's some scans to illustrate my point, showcase the sets and to compare the three I have as far as subtle differences in grind etc.

 

[jklee67]

I now have acquired three out of the four Dixie Collection sets. The only one I still need is the steamboat set.

Until I compared the lockbacks with my own eyes I had missed that the etches are different on these as well as on the UH144s so you can tell which LB-7(8) goes with which 144 without matching the serial numbers.

Here's some scans to illustrate my point, showcase the sets and to compare the three I have as far as subtle differences in grind etc.

I have the Steamboat edition if anyone is interested?

 

[egersh2632]

I have the set with the steamboat any one know which set that is box just says uncle henry dixie limited edtion 1980

 

[Larry303]

Further information/clarification/photo of recent Dwain M post query, re Dixie Series LB8 with LB7 blade in Post #29 shows the Uncle Henry shield on the Dixie Series were brass instead of the usual Nickel/Silver Shield on 'Conventional' LB8's.....Q: is your Uncle Henry Shield brass or nickel/silver..?...you may be on the right track with your assumption of yours being a 'Dixie Series'..with LB7 blade on LB8...

 

[Codger_64]

So seldom seen these days that the research seems to have fallen by the wayside unfortunately.