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2 x 72 Grinder for sale (New manufacturer) Wilmont

Discussion in 'For Sale: Knifemaking Supplies & Tools' started by blindhogg, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. blindhogg

    blindhogg

    Feb 21, 2001
  2. Frank Niro

    Frank Niro Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 10, 2000
    Does it take a wheel say 10" for hollow grinding and what is the price, please Frank
     
  3. blindhogg

    blindhogg

    Feb 21, 2001
    It sure does handle a hollow wheel Frank. Price is $1500 for Base grinder, flat platten and removable toolrest. Motor and drive wheel must be purchased separately.

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  4. Reynaldo Garza

    Reynaldo Garza

    86
    Jul 12, 2009
    Motor and drive wheel, how much?. What hp is the motor and is the variable speed controller for sale? Rey in Texas
     
  5. blindhogg

    blindhogg

    Feb 21, 2001
    Reynaldo
    We dont sell motors and or drive wheels.
    So far every one of our customers have used Wayne Coe (A fellow knifemaker) for the motors and or VFD's. He is easy to communicate with and has outstanding prices. The motor used in the photos was purchased from him.
    A 4" drive wheel can be purchased from either Beaumont or Usaknifemaker.
    PS I am using a 1.5 HP motor W VFD and am very happy with it, plus it runs off of 120V.
    PSS link for Wayne Coes prices below.
    http://knifedogs.com/showthread.php?13587-Motors-VFDs-Forge-Supplies-etc.
    Chris
     
  6. chainring

    chainring KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 20, 2008
    Cool. Layed over option is sweet.
     
  7. mito0

    mito0

    250
    Apr 27, 2007
    hi, chris.
    this might sound a bit rude rude, but it isn't intended to be - i'm genuinely interested:
    what exactly makes this grinder worth twice as much as a comparably-equipped kmg?
    kind regards,
    mike
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  8. jll346

    jll346 Knife maker Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2006
    Nice grinder.
     
  9. J. Hoffman

    J. Hoffman

    Jan 1, 2011
    +1
    I'm looking at getting my first grinder and while yours looks very nice, and the horizontal feature is nice, I don't see the extra money. Could you please point out the differences. Thanks Jess
     
  10. blindhogg

    blindhogg

    Feb 21, 2001
    Mito0 and Mooseyard
    Fair question, and I will try to point out some of the features that are not readily apparent.
    1.All Wilmont products include shipping in the Continental USA.
    2. All steel in the construction of our base grinder is black zinc coated, so it will not rust nor need to be painted.
    3. All aluminum parts are anodized black (9 parts) and all contact wheels and tracking wheels are anodized red (3 parts). The anodizing is not done for looks, its for longevity of the aluminum. Anodizing is significantly stronger than the parent aluminum underneath it.
    4. We use larger bearings in the tracking wheel and 2" contact wheel for longer run time between bearings being replaced.
    5. Ability to convert to a horizontal grinder in 30 seconds. (Base plates in zinc coated steel available soon w hinge).
    6. Ability to rotate, remove, and swivel toolrest quickly and easily.
    7. Uses KMG style tooling if you already own it. (Which I did, as I own a KMG)

    This grinder is not for everyone though, if you can not use most of these extra added features then this might not be the grinder for you.
    But if you attempted to replicate the features built into this one grinder you would pay substantially more than our asking price. Mostly because you would have to buy two grinders, one horizontal and one vertical along with two motors, shipping on two grinders etc etc.
    One of the things I attempted to do when designing this grinder is build it so it was modular in design. IE one could build a different shaped toolrest (One to contour a 10" contact wheel in horizontal mode) or a 2" wheel when in horizontal mode. One could make a toolrest that is 14 inches long to work with a grinding jig, etc etc.
    I am sure with the knife makers on this site they could easily come up with some ways to use this grinder that I could never fatham.
    Chris

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  11. mito0

    mito0

    250
    Apr 27, 2007
    great, thanks for the info - very helpful.
     
  12. Matthew Gregory

    Matthew Gregory Chief Executive in charge of Entertainment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 12, 2005
    What's the largest diameter wheel it will handle, and will it also use Bader attachements?
     
  13. blindhogg

    blindhogg

    Feb 21, 2001
    Matthew
    I acquired a 14" wheel awhile ago and have neglected to take it to the machine shop to have turned for some bearings yet. So I just clamped it to my 10" wheel to ensure that it would work. I think you could easily get a 16" on there if one needed to.
    As for the Bader tooling, I had started a insert awhile back to allow this to clamp 1.250 Bader tooling arms and went ahead and finished it today but after inserting my Bader 8" contact wheel the wheel was 1/2 mis-alligned to the belt. So it looks like a no-go on using Bader tooling.
    PS if anyone cars to see the insert just let me know.
    Chris

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  14. Dennis Paish

    Dennis Paish

    297
    Jan 3, 2007
    Greetings,
    Where did you get that 14" contact wheel?

    Dennis Paish
     
  15. Matthew Gregory

    Matthew Gregory Chief Executive in charge of Entertainment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 12, 2005
    Looks to be a well-thought out machine! Going direct drive was a stroke of genius. What's the overall weight of the machine without motor?
     
  16. mito0

    mito0

    250
    Apr 27, 2007
    kmg has some.

    click here.
     
  17. Arakiel

    Arakiel

    738
    Jun 14, 2010
    Respectfully, I would put some openings in the horizontal position motor support ring to allow a cooling airflow.

    Edit: Upon closer inspection, I see one cutout but I am still concerned about the airflow. As a suggestion, perhaps a better design would an upright support permanently mounted to the table that contacts a flat portion of the grinder frame in the horzontal position. This modification would allow you to remove the motor rings completely, with the additional benefit of not having any vibration damage caused to the motor and housing by contact with ridgid materials.
     
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2011
  18. Jsteele

    Jsteele

    198
    Dec 11, 2010
    Very cool grinder. I like the 3 tool arm slots. I am not to keen on the flip the base over horizontal design,please do not take offense to my opinion. It takes up to much room on a bench. I also have to agree on the comment made about the motor resting on a ring type base. The tracking looks solid,and that is important. I am constantly wasting a lot of time adjusting the tracking on my KMG. And it is to the point where i am thinking of buying another grinder for the shop.
     
  19. blindhogg

    blindhogg

    Feb 21, 2001
    Matthew
    Weight of the machine w-out motor and attachments is 45lb's, the flat platten is 15lb's and the toolrest is 15lb's.
    Dennis
    Its a 14" wheel I purchased off of ebay awhile back, it was originally 3" wide so I machined 1/2 off both sides to get it 2" wide.
    Arakiel
    I have considered that, but it would require a 9" tall piece of steel w bumper in order to contact the frame, I have another idea when i have the steel plates cut next week I plan to try.
    Jsteele
    Upside is you do not have to flip the grinder to use it as a horizontal. It can be configured as a horizontal and kept in a vertical mode. Its just more difficult to see what you are doing when operating grinder this way.
    Plus extra plate on the left is only 11.5" wide.
    Chris
     
  20. Jsteele

    Jsteele

    198
    Dec 11, 2010
    Chris... thank you for answering my question. Setting up the grinder to work as a horizontal while still standing up would work just like like the MAP arm attachment. What if you were to create a stand for your grinder that can turn the grinder into a horizontal grinder within the stand,just by swinging a handle into that position? the handle can move in a smile motion and lock at the end by placing it into a notch. You can sell the stand for your grinder. Just food for thought..
     

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