2006 Forum Knife Planning and Aquisition

Codger I talked to three of my knife maker buddies and each of them said they simply did not have time to devote to the clean up project. They each intimated that their time would be better served making their own product and as such the charge for clean up would be probably prohibitve considering our budget restrictions.

Paul
 
Due to the difficulty of aquistion of platform knives for scrimshaw, I took the liberty of talking with Bill Horn of Cumberland Knife Works and the following deal and proposal to the forum is about 99.5% a done deal subject to concensus of the forum members.

There are 9 patterns available in the Canal Street Amber Stagged bone knives. They are Swing Guard, 4Bld. Congress, Large Folding Hunter all at $79.00 Trapper, 3 Bld. Whittler,3Bld Stockman, 3Bld Large Stockman, and Drop Point Fixed Blade, all at $74.00 and finally the Muskrat at $64.00.

The common denominator here is 1) They are all Canal Street (strong ties to the old Schrade Co.) 2) They are all Amber Stagged Bone. 3) They will all be blade etched ( whatever we decide that etch to be.)

I see this as a win win win win situation;

Logistics: All product is ordered from the same source. No forum member has to keep inventory or shuffle it around or keep records of what is where.

All product is paid for at a single source. No forum member has to collect and keep track of any monies. Credit Cards, PayPal etc. okay

All product is shipped from a single source. No forum member has to gather addresses and make runs to the Post Office.

Choice: Any forum member can choose any one or all or any combination of the patterns as he sees fit. They will all be blade etched.

Simplicity: Each member orders directly from Cumberland Knife works. No forum member has to keep track of orders etc.

Probably the best part is that the prices I mentioned above by pattern style are the final prices you pay. Those prices include the etch charge and the postage to your home. The price you see is the price you pay.

Delivery: will be pretty quick except that 1) we have to figure out what we want the etch to be. 2) They will be etched in large batches, not one today and one tomorrow, so any order might be delayed a few days waiting for etch.

As I said, Bill is really willing to work with us,and this deal is about 99.5% done but he'll have to hear from me (us) for the final go.

You can look at the knives at www.cumberlandknifeworks.com

Paul

PS; Should we decide to move forward on this, then I think you could "pre order" and give Bill some idea of what patterns will be the most popular. He could hold your knife until etch design was complete.
 
I'm not happy with the sample knife I got off the guy who has 19 more,but it's in better shape than what Phil's starting with.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7233198060&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1

Here's the $35 sample knife:
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Both bolsters have light scratches front and back.I think they will buff out.
What I'm not happy with are a couple negative defects in the micarta.I'd SWAG them at 4-5 mils deep.
The other scale is okay.


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I know nothing about micarta so maybe someone can comment of the possibility of removing these defects.:jerkit:
The knife arrived in a Schrade leather case,but I don't think they were shipped from Ellenville to Tennessee in leather cases.
His ad says 100% hand inspected.It doesn't say they passed.
Ron
 
Micarta can be milled, ground, filed, sanded, and polished, like many other materials. It also takes hand cut scrimshaw very nicely, but resists compression, which doesn't make it the best choice for pressed in scrimshaw as done on the Delrin handled Schrades.

This was done by Diane Hecht on yellow micarta:



As to the voids on the handle of your knife, you probably don't want to file or sand the entire handle down as it will be much thinner. Try filling in the depressions with super glue and then sanding or buffing the area smooth after it hardens.
 
Redshanks,
Thanks for that info.:)
Larry was kind enough to point out that it's Delrin and not Micarta,so this amateur aint messing with it.
Ron
 
I like Diane Hecht's work! How can I get a hold of her?
Phil

edited to add... Of course I like Diane's work.. I bought a piece at a knife show! When I found her site on the web, soon enough I saw one of the piano key scrimshaw book marks, one almost exactly like I bought my wife a couple of years ago. As I recall the story, Diane's father or someone found the old piano with ivory keys at the side of the road.
 
sheathmaker said:
Due to the difficulty of aquistion of platform knives for scrimshaw, I took the liberty of talking with Bill Horn of Cumberland Knife Works and the following deal and proposal to the forum is about 99.5% a done deal subject to concensus of the forum members.

There are 9 patterns available in the Canal Street Amber Stagged bone knives. They are Swing Guard, 4Bld. Congress, Large Folding Hunter all at $79.00 Trapper, 3 Bld. Whittler,3Bld Stockman, 3Bld Large Stockman, and Drop Point Fixed Blade, all at $74.00 and finally the Muskrat at $64.00.

The common denominator here is 1) They are all Canal Street (strong ties to the old Schrade Co.) 2) They are all Amber Stagged Bone. 3) They will all be blade etched ( whatever we decide that etch to be.)

I see this as a win win win win situation;

Logistics: All product is ordered from the same source. No forum member has to keep inventory or shuffle it around or keep records of what is where.

All product is paid for at a single source. No forum member has to collect and keep track of any monies. Credit Cards, PayPal etc. okay

All product is shipped from a single source. No forum member has to gather addresses and make runs to the Post Office.

Choice: Any forum member can choose any one or all or any combination of the patterns as he sees fit. They will all be blade etched.

Simplicity: Each member orders directly from Cumberland Knife works. No forum member has to keep track of orders etc.

Probably the best part is that the prices I mentioned above by pattern style are the final prices you pay. Those prices include the etch charge and the postage to your home. The price you see is the price you pay.

Delivery: will be pretty quick except that 1) we have to figure out what we want the etch to be. 2) They will be etched in large batches, not one today and one tomorrow, so any order might be delayed a few days waiting for etch.

As I said, Bill is really willing to work with us,and this deal is about 99.5% done but he'll have to hear from me (us) for the final go.

You can look at the knives at www.cumberlandknifeworks.com

Paul

PS; Should we decide to move forward on this, then I think you could "pre order" and give Bill some idea of what patterns will be the most popular. He could hold your knife until etch design was complete.[/QUOTE]

Paul,
I like your proposal as it appears that we'll be unable to get suitable blanks from random sources.
The Canal Street knive are very nice.:thumbup:
If it's decided that we're going your suggested route,please let us know immediately so we can order.
Also,how do we notify Cumberland that the order is part of the Schrade Commemorative 2006 Knives to be etched?
Ron
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Ron; Thank you for your response. I was beginning to think that I was the only one who could see the post I made. All I really need to set this in motion is a concensus of what we want the blade etch to say. It will have to be small enough to fit on the smallest knife of the group and still be used on the larger knives. I was thinking perhaps something like "Blade Forums Schrade Collectors 2006" or even "BFSCF 2006". I have been having trouble connecting with Bill. He's a home builder and getting him on the phone can be a chore. Once this is in place you can order by pattern or patterns direct from Bill at Cumberland Knife Works. I just hesitate to do it before I receive some sort of concensus of the forum. I thank you for the email response directly to me on the scrim deal and a similar method of response for this Canal Street deal would be good also. I'll hold off until I hear from 15 or so of you and then I'll push forward. This is a deal where you can order or not order...it's up to you.

Email me your comments direct at pfl@cebridge.net. It might also be useful to let me know what pattern you are thinking about so I can give Bill a heads up. Thanks

Paul

PS I will post a notice on just how to identify your order as part of the Forum Knife deal as soon as I talk with Bill and see what he needs by way of information.
 
I find myself stuck in the middle on this one so I haven't posted before.Paul has come up with a solution but I feel as if we are missing a once in a lifetime chance.The chance to have what may be the last Schrades Scrimmed by FG is just too good to pass up.I would like to give it a couple of more days to see if any more knives turn up.Arnold
 
I too am torn.

Paul has offered us a very good possibility, and for his efforts, I sincerely thank him. And I thank you other folks who have invested your time, as well. I'm personally still inclined to hold out with my first Canal Street purchase for something I don't have...like the twist ring knife.

I too, agree with Arnold, that a Schrade done by Frank Giorgianni is something very, very, special and attractive to me personally. I'm sorry it seems to be quite difficult to swing a supply of knives, and wish I had some contacts to explore.

Again, I'm only expressing my own opinion, and I hope something works out to make the majority happy.

Bill
 
I appreciate the views expressed and I admire your individual stands, and what I'm about to say I mean with love in my heart for all my schradophile buddies. This has been kind of like "herding cats" so I'm backing off this project and if at some point in the future you collectively find it feasable to contact Bill again, I'm sure he'd be more than willing to work the deal then.
I personally do not want a scrimmed knife at the projected price so that will make one less you'll need.

Paul
 
Paul,

You've done a lot on this project, and stuck your neck out too!

I understand where you're coming from, and I do thank you most sincerely for what you've done.

Take Care,
Del
 
I like the Scrimshaw idea and I like the Canal Street idea. Is there any way to combine the two? What is the minimum number of knives that can be ordered with a specific handle material from CS? Can we do both?
 
Hey Reloader ,I Just orderd one of the same 7's you got I'm going to order a wheel for my buffer and see if I can't work out some of the imperfections. Have you heard of nonconvalute(may be misspelled) wheels ? If it's what I'm thinking ....it's like a SCRUNNGY PAD only milder ,non woven ,nonconvalute is I believe how they discribe them .It will take me a day or two to find them again...yea I'm that slow . If your not comfortable trying ,but if you want to give it a try start with about 150grt...or 180grt just ease into it when you get most of it out then you use the wheel....or400--600grt wet sand .Then I know another trick to bring back the shine only I'm not real sure how these Scrimms will react....you take a hot air gun and almost like you where drying hair (this part threw me at first ...don't have alot Of hair left..he he..) don't get to close slowly keep heating and the shine starts to come back...don't push the issue to far or it may blister..Pay close attention at this point. Why I say ths Scimms may be different is there so light colored,so if you try the heat watch the color and stop if it starts to change. As with most things if its going to change it will do it at a certain point ,or temprature in this case...so once it starts building ,or retaining the heat if it's going to change it would go rather quickly.I don't have any Scrimms , but if we could get someone with an old one they have carried for a while to try the heat for us... sand it very lightly with 400 or 600,then heat it (It is a great trick for most dark plastic...(elastomeres whatever you call them) ...Anyway as soon as I can get the nonconvalute shipped and I can get the Scrimm I ordered from your Ebay source I'll try it ,as much as I would hate to screw up a Schrade ,they are a great working knife....I might have to alternate the 6ot I carry and a scrimm. Besides drastic times call for drastic measures....MAKE IT HAPPEN...RIGHT? How long did it take you to get your shippment from this Ebay site?...THX..Michael
 
Hogdog,
It took 3 days after I paypaled him payment.
He agreed to my request to exchange this one for one he considers "good",so I'm exchanging it.
Ron
 
Be Werry Werry careful with Delrin on the buffing wheel. It tends to melt and can really screw up your day.
TTYL
Larry
 
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