2014 Fake, Counterfeit, Knockoff Buck Knives & Americans Who Sell Them

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The official Buck Knives, Inc. sticky thread with corporate moderation, photos and discussion is located here on the Buck forum: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ericans-Who-Sell-Them?p=12121218#post12121218




1. Amazon: tworaystore, BUCK 768 Hunting Fixed Camping Survival Knife Silver blade image.jpg


2. Ebay: jamesfischer2013, Omaha, Nebraska, BUCK KNIFE # 3 ( U.S. DESIGN 2008 )


3. Ebay: portorangesurplus, Daytona Beach, Florida, Buck steel Titanium Tactical Saber Outdoor Fishing Camping Folding Knife NEW


4. Ebay: tech2ools, Midlothian, Virginia, Buck Outdoor Pocket Knife - Hunting, Camping, Survival, Rescue, Fishing - X11


5. Ebay: tomtom202011, Newark, Delaware, BUCK Straight Knife Saber Fixed Blade Fishing Survival Camping Hunt Knife


6. Ebay: agoodlife4u, Milton, Florida, Buck 10" Fixed Blade Survival Camping Hunting Fishing Knife w/Leather Sheath New


7. Ebay: hopheadoutfitters, High Point, North Carolina, Buck Folding camp knife


8. Ebay: kevilill (AKA Pine Ridge Knives), Hinton, West Virginia, Buck multicolor lockback knife


9. Ebay: streetprice4u, Leander, Texas, BUCK X11 folding blade outdoor hunting camping pocket knife


10. Ebay: sillyedog, Barstow, California, buck knife


11. Ebay: sexyjutsukakashi2010, Brazoria, Texas, buck knifes


12. Ebay: redhogusa, Starkville, Mississippi, Tactical Survival 58HRC Folding D40 Knife Outdoor Self Defense Camping Tool


13. Ebay: hotrodder1954, Griffin, Georgia, Buck knife full tang prepper camping hunting survival knife with sheath


14. Ebay: 0msjsm0, Marion, Texas, BUCK X35 57HRC Coating Gray Titanium Blade Steel + Wood Handle


15. Ebay: undefined-14, United States, Survival Camping Gear Fold Hunting Tool Military Buck Swiss Army Folding Knife C


16. Ebay: net-riter, Port Saint Joe, Florida, Buck 7" Folding Framelock Knife K145 - DA14 FAST SHIPPING!


17. Ebay: bestdeal207, Anson, Maine, new fixed blade buck knife,


18. Ebay: tlm3615, Flowery Branch, Georgia, Buck 6" folding knife,


19. Ebay: billywilliamson, Pasadena, Texas, Buck Hunting Knife,


20. Ebay: k_n_lane, Brazoria, Texas, Buck 480 Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Survival Hunting Knife w/ nylon sheath,


21. Ebay: kjd_novelties, Wagoner, Oklahoma, Buck Tactical Saber Steel Titanium Camping Survival Pocket Folding Knife,


22. Ebay: joeanisi, Forest Park, Illinois, Buck Outdoor Pocket Saber Hunting Camping Folding Knife,


23. Ebay: mikezxq, United States, buck assisted opening knife,


24. Ebay: hobie48, Lincroft, New Jersey, buck mayo 25th anniversary tactical folding knife,


25. Ebay: quinns_corner, Portland, Oregon, buck titanium steel line lock knife k163 ss8,


26. Ebay: efb1024, Larsen, Wisconsin, New Buck Saber with clip Folding Pocket Knife Survival Camping Hunting knife XN3,


27. Ebay: mr.bob2480, West Jefferson, Ohio, Buck Knife 4.00" Closed . Framelock w/Pocket Clip. Great Holiday Gift.


28. Ebay: rudyknives, Katy, Texas, 7" Buck Knife Tactical Saber Fishing Camping Folding Pocket Knives,


29. Ebay: jo-mar77, Anaheim, CA, Buck Folding Pocket with Clip Knife Outdoor Hunting Camping Saber k168 yy,


30. Ebay: knightreader*2000, United States, Buck Titanium Steel Line lock Knife K163 J2,


31. Ebay: knifecrazeyuma-az, Yuma, Arizona, NEW "Buck" Saber Pocket knife,


32. Ebay: moelax24, Las Vegas, Nevada, BUCK VANGUARD BLACK HUNTING OUTDOOR CAMPING SURVIVAL KNIFE FIXED-BLADE TACTICAL,


33. Ebay: jmcright2013, Willis, Texas, Buck Outdoor Titanium Steel Line lock Folding Blades Knife K163,


34. Ebay: yosdasportinggoods, Hesperia, California, Buck Folding Knife,


35. Ebay: bestpal2012, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Thumb Assisted Open Colorful Buck Folding Pocket Knife Brand New,


36. Ebay: titus2-2013, Carthage, Missouri, buck USA three and a half inch very sharp perfect pocket knife,


37. Ebay: art4673, Roswell, New Mexico, 7" USAF SECURITY FORCES CUSTOM FOLDING BUCK BOOT SURVIVAL KNIFE,


38. Ebay: tee-rex-fzj80, Charlotte, North Carolina, Buck Pocket Knife "Family Traditions" X35,


39. Ebay: joshburn.eb477urop, USA, Buck Knife. Brand New,


40. Ebay: shownojo, Huntersville, North Carolina, New a Buck Outdoor Titanium wood Line lock Folding Blades Knife K162,


41. Ebay: bluegilbob, Onalaska, Wisconsin, Buck knife, assisted opening lockblade "very nice",


42. Ebay: heavyg-wv, Fairmont, West Virginia, Buck Folding Outdoor Camping Hunting Survival Rescue k15GT Tiger Stripe Knife,


43. Ebay: hunncutting, Fort Worth, Texas, Buck Straight Blade Survival Camping Hunting Fishing Rescue Tool Fixed Knife,


44. Ebay: hiddentreasuresfourtwo, Summerfield, Florida, New Buck steel Clip crossing Tactical Saber Line Lock Folding Blade Knife,


45. Ebay: gcowand, Venus, Texas, Buck Knife Clip Saber Camping Fishing Hunting Pocket Folding Knife,


46. Ebay: bib-49, Highland Falls, New York, Buck Fix Blade Hunting Knife with Sheath / NEW,


47. Ebay: jenson33, Albert Lea, Minnesota, Buck Fixed Blade Knife Vanguard Textured Rubber Handle,


48. Ebay: 4bees, Reistertown, Maryland, FOLDING KNIFE<> PERFECT FOR DEFENSE/CARRY, BACKPACKING, ETC.X,


49. Ebay: shadowrider151, Toney, Alabama, BUCK KNIFE 8 5/8 INCHES WITH SHEATH USA SELLER FAST SHIPPING,


50. Ebay: woelkesautomotive, Hubbard, Oregon, Buck Folding Knife,


51. Ebay: youngblades10, Bay City, Michigan,BUCK USA FOLDING LOCKBACK POCKET KNIFE HUNTING FISHING CAMPING MENS GIFT,


52. Ebay: oldtimers-stuff, Berea, Kentucky, NEW!!! 9" BUCK BLACK BLADE SKINNER HUNTING CAMPING KNIFE WITH / SHEATH.


53. Ebay: rmamartirobi, Summerville, South Carolina, Buck Knife Saber Pocket Folding Camping Knife,


54. Ebay: pro5, Hollywood, Florida, New Buck Titanium wood Line lock Knife K162 Ship From FL. U.S.A.,


55. Ebay: willisboatworks, Berryville, Virginia, BUCK 8 1/4" #DA4 FOLDING SKINNER HUNTING KNIFE ~ 25 YEAR ANNIVERSARY ~ HEAVY,


56. Ebay: micah9159, Caldwell, Idaho, BUCK KNIFE WITH SHEATH VINTAGE HUNTER FIXED BLADE KNIFE NO RESERVE,


57. Ebay: kactuskid1968, Phoenix Arizona, BUCK FOLD OUT KNIFE 6.75" BRAND NEW IN BOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,


58. Ebay: lindatagg2013, Fossil, Oregon, New Outdoor Buck DA34 Titanium Folding Steel Line Lock Blade knife USA SHIPPER,


59. Ebay: thatcher211, New Lennox, Illinois, Buck Folding Knife with Pocket Clip,


60. Ebay: universevillage, Hot Springs Village, Arkansas, Buck Folding Camping Knife,


61. Ebay: shadowrider151, Toney, Alabama, Buck Hunting Knife,

Should you find your name and merchandise listed here set things right by turning yourself over to Homeland Security and come clean. This list was sent to Homeland Security 12-31-2014.
 
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eBay is a cesspool for counterfeit everything.......

The worst part is that someone will base what they think of a knife brand on using a counterfiet...

Not sure why the bigger players like Buck let this happen.

These should all be reported. How hard would it be for them to check eBay once a week and report all the fakes?!
 
JR88FAN said:
eBay is a cesspool for counterfeit everything.......

The worst part is that someone will base what they think of a knife brand on using a counterfiet...

Not sure why the bigger players like Buck let this happen.

These should all be reported. How hard would it be for them to check eBay once a week and report all the fakes?!
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Reality Check.
No manufacturers asks or allows counterfeits of their product to be made.
It is a wholly illegal business run by criminals who don't follow laws, international or otherwise.
Fighting them legally doesn't work. Like cockroaches, you turn the light on them and they scatter, only to pop up someplace else.
Counterfeit items get reported to Ebay all the time. It has already been adjudicated that they are not responsible for items being posted by individuals. Why would they pull accounts that obviously make them money because buyers choose to purchase illegal items?

Possibly the best thing one can do is report these individuals to the U.S. Customs dept. Even though overworked, they are the only ones that can really stop shipments of illegal items entering the country. Perhaps if enough reports are given, some action may be taken.

If one wants to know why all this is happening Read the book or watch the video called "Death By China":
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...e-Truth-of-the-matter?p=13505971#post13505971
 
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Karda said:
Reality Check.
No manufacturers asks or allows counterfeits of their product to be made.
It is a wholly illegal business run by criminals who don't follow laws, international or otherwise.
Fighting them legally doesn't work. Like cockroaches, you turn the light on them and they scatter, only to pop up someplace else.
Counterfeit items get reported to Ebay all the time. It has already been adjudicated that they are not responsible for items being posted by individuals. Why would they pull accounts that obviously make them money because buyers choose to purchase illegal items?

Possibly the best thing one can do is report these individuals to the U.S. Customs dept. Even though overworked, they are the only ones that can really stop shipments of illegal items entering the country. Perhaps if enough reports are given, some action may be taken.

If one wants to know why all this is happening Read the book or watch the video called "Death By China":
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...e-Truth-of-the-matter?p=13505971#post13505971
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I am not sure if you read their official policy on counterfeit items....

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

It looks to me like they take responsibility for what is posted.

Whether they act upon their own rules is another thing, however if they have an established and clear rule against counterfeit items, then pressure on them to enforce that rule is a solution.

A call from bigger companies like Buck/BM/Spyderco, list goes on could do wonders....

Or perhaps bringing this to the attention of the public through media, and focusing on eBay would also help. It would at least educate the general knife buying public who gets taken by this junk every day, and put some pressure on eBay to enforce their own rules.

I hear only silence. I guess it's not costing them enough to fight for....

Nobody seems to be fighting for much these days, and the general consensus is that 'we can't win' so why bother.

That doesn't seem very American.
 
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Good on the Buck forum for making that a sticky.

I wish every manufacturers forum had a sticky with named known offenders.
I know it wouldn't stop it, but it would be beneficial for some Blade Forums members.
It could even hurt business for some of these thieves.
 
JR88FAN said:
I am not sure if you read their official policy on counterfeit items....

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

It looks to me like they take responsibility for what is posted.
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The problem is that they seldom do a thing, or even close the sale when you report one. They either don't have time, don't care, or both.

I've reported many over the past two years, and not one was even taken down. I've given up on reporting them.
 
JR88FAN said:
I am not sure if you read their official policy on counterfeit items....

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

It looks to me like they take responsibility for what is posted.
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Policy Schmolicy. Looking at all the listings for counterfeit items on their site, does it appear to you that they are overly concerned with following their own policy?
I've seen manufacturers report these items and nothing is done by Ebay. As I said, why should they? They get paid if they allow the sale.
It's a numbers game. Sure, a Manufacturer could feasibly start a lawsuit against ebay for allowing these sales. But because of the former ruling and set precedence they will likely be acquitted and because of their wealth, they can tie up any manufacturer in court for years.
 
Karda said:
Policy Schmolicy. Looking at all the listings for counterfeit items on their site, does it appear to you that they are overly concerned with following their own policy?
I've seen manufacturers report these items and nothing is done by Ebay. As I said, why should they? They get paid if they allow the sale.
It's a numbers game. Sure, a Manufacturer could feasibly start a lawsuit against ebay for allowing these sales. But because of the former ruling and set precedence they will likely be acquitted and because of their wealth, they can tie up any manufacturer in court for years.
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Well than maybe this is all just talk....

The only one losing out is knife enthusiasts.

Buck, and almost all knife manufactures (I will stick to knives, but this includes EVERYTHING) make most of their knives in China anyways.

This is a by-product, Karma, call it what you will.

Even the manufactures that don't, like BM, still use certain parts that are made China.

We gave our jobs to the Chinese and now they want it all.....

North America had a stupid plan, and now we are paying for it.

I know this is not the political forum, but this is a corporate/political problem.

The basics are corporate greed, that as always, hurts the general public the most.
 
Not that it is overly effective, but Ebay does actually try to act upon listings that are brought to their attention that are either fake or fradulent. The problem is (much like elsewhere) there is not enough resoruces to police it and even if there was; there is little if any punishment that comes to the offendors in the end. So it is somewhat pointless. If anything they likely just pull the item - or if multiple issues - pull the account. It's not that hard for someone to get another one though.
They are only a microcasm of the rest of the business and law enforcement realm.

As far as the other stuff - our government and legal system is what ran business off - it's not even really about wages(whatever wage savings is eaten up in logistics). Too much regulation, highest corp taxes in the world, legal issues out the whazoo.........
 
Seller refunded my money yesterday. Have a youtube (not mine) video showing the difference between a real harthook and a knock off exactly like the one I bought on ebay.

Its in my post below. Obviously $12 buy it now new is too great to be true.
 
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spydie fanatic said:
Add ebay user ID jacglobal, from Salem, Oregon, United States to the list, I just bought two model 860 hartsook neck knives and they were both fake. Seller is also selling other bucks which are knockoffs.
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How's about posting some pictures so people can tell the difference between the real deal and what you have. How do you know they are fakes, in other words. Simply reporting a person as selling something fake doesn't make it true, just like putting a cat in the oven doesn't make it a biscuit.
 
RevDevil said:
How's about posting some pictures so people can tell the difference between the real deal and what you have. How do you know they are fakes, in other words. Simply reporting a person as selling something fake doesn't make it true, just like putting a cat in the oven doesn't make it a biscuit.
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I received a full refund from the seller yesterday; no message or attempt to deny it or fight my claim. In this youtube video (not mine) you will see the real knife and the ebay knock off. Mine is just like the knock off shown in the video; same exact engravings, etc and everything shown in the video with the exception mine doesn't have any type of sticker on the two boxes.

The knives I received also look like the ones for sale from $2.63 - $3.00 on Chinese sites where you buy in bulk of 50, etc.
 
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Excuse the novice question, but some low-end Bucks were made in China and are so marked/priced - are these fakes the same models as those authentic SinoBucks?
Could they be "lunch box" carry-outs?

In the distant past I have bought "Hong Kong" Rolexes as gag gifts, and found them to be a good deal - look good, work well, last long. Do these Bucks show evidence of shoddy workmanship that gives them away?
I am in no way advocating buying any fake or ANYTHING from China. Unfortunately, like those Rolexes, if there is a demand, the SOBs will keep cranking them out.
 
The knives shown here are neither made by Buck Knives, Inc. nor authorized by Buck Knives, Inc. Manufacturers and sellers have misappropriated the good Buck name instead of using their own.
 
There is something the manufacturers can do about ebay counterfeits. They can join a program that allows them to have listings pulled that they wish to have pulled. It takes time, effort and money to do that but it is doable. Perhaps you can write to the manufacturers involved and encourage them to participate.
 
Some more people who are selling fakes on ebay. 1 aways-here. 2. buyhereagain2012. 3. lovecruze. 4. magicmall2012. 5. yourpopularworld.
There are so many, too many to count. I never knew about this.
 
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