2015 Ford F 150

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Pyromancer

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What are your thoughts?
Is Aluminum the way of the future?
Smaller, 2.7L Ecoboost for the guys who don't need all that power?
 
It's very annoying to see comments about " the new metal , aluminum " Al has been used in cars for 100 years !!! Wait a year and see how it holds up in the salt belt .That would be my major concern . I' still not sold on Eco Boost which adds cost and complexity.
 
My vote goes to the Dodge Ram. I bought a 1999 model new, never had any problems with it, and it's still going strong.
 
^^^^another vote for the ram. I had a 1995 dodge ram that had just over 200,000 miles on it. Yes it rattled and flunked a little bit but it still had the original engine and transmission it when I traded it in on the "cash for clunkers" deal 4 years ago.
The only reason I traded it was because I was given 7 grand on trade in. I had to take the government up on that little deal. I traded it for a 2010 ram and it's not given me any trouble knock on wood.
The rest of my family is die hard ford truck fans. They are fine trucks as well, but I decided to against the grain.
As far as the eco boost, it wouldn't scare me off because it's new technology. My truck has(forgive me I can't call the term for it) a system to where it cuts down to 4 cylinders on the highway. It was newer technology when I bought it, and I was a bit hesitant,but ultimately went through with the trade. I'm glad I did it's gets 24mph on long highway trips, which is great for a 5.7 liter v8.
Nothing at all wrong with a smaller more fuel efficient engine if that's all you require.
As for aluminum being the way of the future.....well it was the way of the past, is the way of the present and will be here for the future.
 
I have a 2013 Ecoboost and love it. Of course it's tuned, etc. But I love it. My wife has the Expedition 5.4 and it feels like we are towing a building
 
Sounds perfect for me, except I don't want to swing the price. I need a truck, but don't do anything heavy duty. I have a couple of apartment buildings and a house and I'm always hauling trash, construction waste, lawnmowers and an occasional load of stone or top soil, but I don't tow anything or except for the stone and dirt, carry anything heavy.

For some reason I don't like to have more than one vehicle so any truck would also be my daily driver and I'd like better mileage.
 
My real world mileage was around 17.7 combined and about 21 highway before I lifted and went to 34" tires. Now I am at a combined 15.7
 
If you want to wait until January 2015, Nissan is going to release a whole new updated version of the Titan but this time with a Cummins diesel engine!

Sorry but the Big 3 just don't cut it these days when compared to the Japanese. I used to have a Tacoma with over 275k and it never needed anything replaced other than oil and an air filter once a year. I sold it to my brother in law and to this day he still drives it. It probably has over 350k miles now. On the other hand I rarely hear of a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge going past 150k without needing some type of work.

Sorry, but the sad truth is that the Japs build better vehicles these days.
 
I disagree with that totally. The imports have such major problems it seems, but to each his own. I personally like GM cars, but Ford trucks. Vehicles are the same as knives, everyone likes something different, lol
 
Out of all the new full size trucks out right now, GM is far and away the best in my opinion after having been in all 3 of the big brands newest trucks. Plus I think they look great. If you havent been in one, they are amazingly quiet and comfortable. We will see what the 2015 Ford ends up doing but I still do not like the looks of it at all.

When it comes to full size trucks the Japanese are way behind even though the Tacoma is the best small truck around without a doubt.

Realistically, its pretty crazy to lump every car in country categories and saying a brand new vehicle is great because your 20 year old one is doesnt make sense either. There will be just as many exceptions as there are rules.
 
Get what you like bud, I'm sure you'll be happy.

I've owned and loved both Ford and Chevy trucks. I'd own a Dodge with a Hemi and might give it a shot someday.

The Japanese make great small/mid size trucks, but the larger ones I'd stick with one of the Big 3.

I'm a Union man and will always buy American. Until I'm successful enough for a Ferrari. I won't hold my breath.
 
I have owned all 3 since 2008, a Chev 3/4 ton, a Dodge 1/2 ton, and my present vehicle: a 2012 F250. I never had a problem with any of them but I ordered a 2015 F350 last week. I too will go to my grave without buying a Nissan or a Toyota.
 
ASE certified master tech here to put in my 2 cents. All vehicles will have problems eventually. They have wearable parts. The best advice I can give is get what you like, maintain it religiously, and don't buy a model after a major change. Wait a couple years for the manufacturer to work the bugs out. I would personally go GM but that my preference...I see more high mileage GM trucks than any other. They're also easier to work on IMHO.
 
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RecalcitrantAmerican said:
I'm a Union man and will always buy American.
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Don't take this as an offense because out of all the members here at BF you seem like one of the nicest. However, every time I hear this statement something inside me forces me to correct it.

First of all let me say that out of the Big 3, GM is the most UN-AMERICAN company there is. Remember many years ago when they fired most of their employees all of the sudden just so they can move their production lines out of country for cheaper manufacturing costs? Remember when they used our tax money to bail themselves out of their super close financial meltdown? Many of their former employees went homeless because of this.

The irony of when people claim they buy American and put down Toyota for not being American is the fact that Ford, GM, and Chrysler have moved most of their production lines into Mexico and Canada. Their vehicles, are no longer "American made". They no longer are supporting American jobs either and instead are supporting Canadian and Mexican jobs. Do you honestly think that's American?

Here is even a bigger irony. Toyota has most of their factories located here in the United States. Toyota is supporting American jobs. The Toyota Tundra was designed in San Diego California and is built in San Antonio Texas with American hands. The Tundra is actually a more American truck than any newer Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. If you want to support America and buy an American truck, your money is better off going to the Tundra.
 
I have been looking at trucks for about a month now on and off. Specifically the F150 4dr. I need a large vehicle for hauling the family around and for working on stuff during weekends. I looked at the big 3 and decided on Ford. I own a Honda and Toyota, no doubt great cars. My Honda is 10 years old, has had all recommended service, use Royal Purple oil, Mobile 1 filters, and no cheap gas. Have only needed to replace tires and brakes. Same on the Toyota. A guy at work recently bought a Tacoma and that thing is so small inside, I left cramped when we went on a supply run to a local warehouse and my seat was reclined and I slid it back as far as it would go.. He's about 5'5 135lbs and even he looked cramped in there.

I know of 2 other people that have older model Ford trucks and they have had nothing but reliability from them. I have no interest in absorbing the depreciation cost on a new vehicle, to me that is just throwing good money away. I'm looking for something from 2006-2012, 4WD, 4DR, Triton V8 preferably, no other bells and whistles needed as far as the engine or off road packages go. The Titan and Tundra are nice, but the cost of repairs, insurance, fuel, and potential theft is all pretty much the same. Ford seems to be just a hair under what the other 2 are in terms of affordability, fuel economy, and long term repair costs. Who knows, my money is on them all costing a bunch to repair when the break down and costing about $100 or more for a full tank of fuel.

Another option I considered was a Jeep 4 door Wrangler, but again the potential for theft is a bit unsettling, especially in AZ folks love to steal vehicles here.
 
mete said:
It's very annoying to see comments about " the new metal , aluminum " Al has been used in cars for 100 years !!! Wait a year and see how it holds up in the salt belt .That would be my major concern . I' still not sold on Eco Boost which adds cost and complexity.
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I think the 2015 F 150 is the first widely sold/affordable vehicle to extensively use aluminum. Certain upper level Audis, Range Rovers, Teslas, have extensively used aluminum but these are generally beyond the reach of common folk, and have relatively low sales volume. However, we have seen aluminum components (mostly hoods) being used in affordable vehicles.
I am concerned about corrosion that might occur between the steel-aluminum interfaces (Ford is using special coatings at these junctions), but not as concerned about aluminum "rusting" as it dents or scratches on flat surfaces. Hopefully someone who has owned/run an aluminum intensive vehicle (one of the aforementioned luxury vehicles or even a newer military Humvee), can chime in.
 
RevDevil said:
I have been looking at trucks for about a month now on and off. Specifically the F150 4dr. I need a large vehicle for hauling the family around and for working on stuff during weekends. I looked at the big 3 and decided on Ford. I own a Honda and Toyota, no doubt great cars. My Honda is 10 years old, has had all recommended service, use Royal Purple oil, Mobile 1 filters, and no cheap gas. Have only needed to replace tires and brakes. Same on the Toyota. A guy at work recently bought a Tacoma and that thing is so small inside, I left cramped when we went on a supply run to a local warehouse and my seat was reclined and I slid it back as far as it would go.. He's about 5'5 135lbs and even he looked cramped in there.
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I don't need a large vehicle, but this is americuuhhhhh, so what the hell right? :cool:
The Tacoma has that world-wide reputation for quality. Definitely something I would consider. I had no idea it was so small inside though. Being 6'2" (all legs) and owning an Impreza has made me want a bigger next car. Something with longer seat cushions or bench-like seating would be great.
 
Pyromancer said:
I don't need a large vehicle, but this is americuuhhhhh, so what the hell right? :cool:
The Tacoma has that world-wide reputation for quality. Definitely something I would consider. I had no idea it was so small inside though. Being 6'2" (all legs) and owning an Impreza has made me want a bigger next car. Something with longer seat cushions or bench-like seating would be great.
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What Rev did not mention is the if his friend's Tacoma was a Crew cab or a half cab. Huge difference in interior space. And for the record I have driven a half cab Tacoma and did not find it to be extremely cramped up as Rev says. I am 5'11 by the way.
 
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