2024 Annuals

Ilikesharpstuff said:
Well the first one (Magnacut, not bacon) has hit the exchange for $850 :rolleyes:
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Seems like retail plus fees and shipping. Might even be losing on the shipping. If it were me, it would have been $735 retail + $50.53 in sales tax for retail total of $785.53. I would incur approximately $26.85 in shipping costs for USPS Priority and insurance, which also requires signature on delivery due to insurance >$500. PayPal fees on $850 is approximately $30.15 based on an online estimator.

So the seller is gouging people for his actual cost plus about $7.50. What a jerk.
 
Lone_Wolfe said:
After the price plus tax, that's not a huge markup. Especially if that's a G&S price.
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madcap_magician said:
Seems like retail plus fees and shipping. Might even be losing on the shipping. If it were me, it would have been $735 retail + $50.53 in sales tax for retail total of $785.53. I would incur approximately $26.85 in shipping costs for USPS Priority and insurance, which also requires signature on delivery due to insurance >$500. PayPal fees on $850 is approximately $30.15 based on an online estimator.

So the seller is gouging people for his actual cost plus about $7.50. What a jerk.
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F&F/Venmo/Zelle

Whether their profit is significant or not, I'd roll my eyes any time a limited knife drops and is for sale again elsewhere the day they start getting delivered.
 
Ilikesharpstuff said:
F&F/Venmo/Zelle

Whether their profit is significant or not, I'd roll my eyes any time a limited knife drops and is for sale again elsewhere the day they start getting delivered.
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Those are options of course, but with the push to use G&S here.................
 
Ilikesharpstuff said:
F&F/Venmo/Zelle

Whether their profit is significant or not, I'd roll my eyes any time a limited knife drops and is for sale again elsewhere the day they start getting delivered.
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... But why?

There's any number of reasons someone might want or need to let something go immediately. Maybe they bought it on a whim, and it's not actually to their taste. Maybe they had a sudden expense that's more important. Maybe they were irresponsible and shouldn't have spent the money in the first place and have buyer's remorse now. Maybe they just like getting in on a drop for the adrenaline rush.

The guy's not gouging anyone. The large MagnaCut was available for almost two days. You're not buying or selling or involved in any way.

You just want him to cut the price on his knife by $30 and violate the PayPal ToS so someone other than you can save $30 on a luxury collectible?

So what exactly is your beef?
 
Lone_Wolfe said:
Those are options of course, but with the push to use G&S here.................
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I definitely agree, those are the methods requested in his listing.


madcap_magician said:
... But why?

There's any number of reasons someone might want or need to let something go immediately. Maybe they bought it on a whim, and it's not actually to their taste. Maybe they had a sudden expense that's more important. Maybe they were irresponsible and shouldn't have spent the money in the first place and have buyer's remorse now. Maybe they just like getting in on a drop for the adrenaline rush.

The guy's not gouging anyone. The large MagnaCut was available for almost two days. You're not buying or selling or involved in any way.

You just want him to cut the price on his knife by $30 and violate the PayPal ToS so someone other than you can save $30 on a luxury collectible?

So what exactly is your beef?
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He's asking his buyer to violate PayPal TOS (which I'm pretty sure you're doing anyway if using PayPal for knife purchases..."weapons" and all) and yeah, why should he make $30 from his impulsivity/lack of budgeting for emergencies/irresponsibility? If you're in the type of financial situation that you ever need to sell an item you purchased a couple days ago, maybe you shouldn't be dabbling in "luxury collectible" markets.

What exactly is your beef with me having beef? Would you feel the same way if someone bought 25 of them and sold them each for $30 profit? I stated it pretty clearly...I roll my eyes when there's a limited production run showing up on secondary marketplaces the day it's received by the buyer. If it was about getting their money back for any of the excuses you listed they could just return it. Not sure why it's a problem for you that I don't agree with flipping.

These are all rhetorical questions of course. We don't have to agree and we don't have to argue it out since neither side seems to have much flex. Hope you have a nice weekend :)
 
Ilikesharpstuff said:
I definitely agree, those are the methods requested in his listing.




He's asking his buyer to violate PayPal TOS (which I'm pretty sure you're doing anyway if using PayPal for knife purchases..."weapons" and all) and yeah, why should he make $30 from his impulsivity/lack of budgeting for emergencies/irresponsibility? If you're in the type of financial situation that you ever need to sell an item you purchased a couple days ago, maybe you shouldn't be dabbling in "luxury collectible" markets.

What exactly is your beef with me having beef? Would you feel the same way if someone bought 25 of them and sold them each for $30 profit? I stated it pretty clearly...I roll my eyes when there's a limited production run showing up on secondary marketplaces the day it's received by the buyer. If it was about getting their money back for any of the excuses you listed they could just return it. Not sure why it's a problem for you that I don't agree with flipping.

These are all rhetorical questions of course. We don't have to agree and we don't have to argue it out since neither side seems to have much flex. Hope you have a nice weekend :)
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Using PayPal for knife purchases isn't a violation of the ToS. The PayPal ToS just says no firearms or certain weapons restricted by law. They're absolutely inconsistent about enforcing that, and usually when they're inconsistent, it's inconsistency on the side of overzealousness, to the detriment of people buying and selling knives, but there isn't anything in there that says you can't buy or sell knives using PayPal, and people generally do so uneventfully. On the other hand, the ToS explicitly state that you cannot ask for F&F payment for a sale (I have used this loophole myself - I always price for G&S and ask for G&S, but if someone pays F&F, I just send the man his knife).

I would be totally fine if someone had been able to buy 25 2024 Annuals and then sold them at a $30 profit, both because it's a theoretical question that would never happen since GPK limited it to one of each variant, maximum, per customer, and hardly anyone was able to get more than one but also because the demand was such that probably a hundred people would have counted themselves very fortunate to be able to get one of those 25 for only $30 net profit to the seller. Certainly on the damascus ones. If I had money to pay a 50% premium to get a NIB large damascus 31 to go with my small, I'd totally do it and be quite happy to have done so.

But on the other hand, you just fundamentally think that no one selling a limited production knife secondhand in the aftermath of the retail release should make money on it. And I think it's OK if they do, although if I think they were asking too much I'd probably come down closer to your side. And those opinions are impervious to facts because they're just based on a fundamental disagreement we have, which is OK, because there is definitely room enough in this town for the both of us.
 
Also, to get back on track, I haven't seen any pictures on BF yet of the small bacon, so here we are! I think the indescribable thing I liked about it is the way the polished flats and blasted edges on the handle color match with the Galactic Bacon damascus. Gosh, it's a pretty knife. And while I think purpleheart is kind of a plain wood for the most part, there is a lot of depth to the purple.




 
Just chaps my backside that the poor collector and admirer of sharp objects must compete with these folks who don’t have a care in the world about the pieces in their possession.
Just about making a buck. ☹️
 
Andre21 said:
Just chaps my backside that the poor collector and admirer of sharp objects must compete with these folks who don’t have a care in the world about the pieces in their possession.
Just about making a buck. ☹️
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I had to pay secondary t get my large Bacon, but not that much. Still a pretty hefty premium. I can't complain though, I'm the one who chose to pay it. I tried to get one on the drop, couldn't get either size.
 
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I just haven’t seen one for sale at all (except the pair that got listed here), so maybe I’m looking in the wrong places.
 
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