.22 rifles?

[milani74]

I have a friend buy a CZ in 17 HMR and says its better than the 22 due to its balistics. 22 ammo is much cheaper though.

 

[Bruce Culberson]

shes lucky btw how did you kill that bear in your avitar

Gangsta,
I used a 7-08 for the bear with 140gr Nosler Accubonds - good bullets:thumbup:

 

[EMT_Lee]

I have a friend buy a CZ in 17 HMR and says its better than the 22 due to its balistics. 22 ammo is much cheaper though.

I've also got a .17HMR, and it's not "better". But, it's different. They move faster, and tend to have a little flatter trajectory. I use mine mostly for groundhogs, when I want to reach out and touch something from a farther distance. However, the V-max bullets that I use tend to tear up meat (that is really the point, since it is a varmint round), and you would not want that in a hunting situation where you plan to eat the meat from the kill.

 

[bradpierson26]

Best bang for your buck is a Savage MKII boltaction. Wal-Mart here has them for $114.00 Blk synt. stock w/ pencil barrel & Iron sights. I got Dad one for Christmas 2 yrs ago along w/ a scope & it shoots Awsome ! :thumbup: If your looking for a semi-auto the the Ruger 10/22 is the only way to go :thumbup: You need to check you local & State laws on Firearms purchases.

I had a little fun with my savage MKII-F

here is my other .22, a tricked out ruger 10/22

 

[gangsta965084]

I had a little fun with my savage MKII-F

here is my other .22, a tricked out ruger 10/22

BEAUTYFUL rilfe

 

[wetdog1911]

CZ452 if you can afford it.

Savage if you can't.

Just do yourself the biggest favor of your young life and DO NOT get a semi-auto of any sort for your first rifle.

Starting on semi's just seems to instill the worst habits at the worst time, like when you should be learning good habits.

Learn proper fire control, breathing, sight alignment, trigger control and all the rest before learning "Let's see how fast we can dump the magazine".

A single shot even, but for sure something that makes you think about every shot rather than just pulling the trigger again.

A semi makes a great second rifle though. Once you know how to shoot, dumping the magazine every now and then can be fun.

Rob

 

[Wildewinds]

CZ452 if you want accuracy, but it may be out of your budget. Can't get any more accurate for less than $1000.

10/22 otherwise. They can be fun. Not nearly as accurate as some others though (not even close to the CZ452).

 

[halromberg]

In Va, it depends a bit on what county you live in. Some add dumb assed waiting periods etc, but the basic requirements are pretty straight forward for rifles. Two forms of ID with your address on em are required. A hunting license you can buy at the same Wall Mart and then use it for a second ID to buy the .22 you want to hunt with. You'll need to show some proof of a hunter safety course since you're not grandfathered in like some of us . Take a hunter safety course, and ask your local gun shop about an NRA safety course as well.

Guns are great fun and useful as anything, but they carry a pretty heavy load of responsibility. You literally just bought whatever you put a hole in, and even a tiny .22 can kill just about anything walking, so bear that in mind. There's a dot org- sort of place called the high road that is a great source of info about guns and how to have fun with them safely and legally. It's worth a read-through.

Oh, and Savage makes an over under .22/,410 break open combo that will let you hunt anything you want if you're good enough. I shot my grandfather's for the first time at age 4 and might inherit it from my dad some day hopefully far down the road. Kick ass little guns.

 

[jill jackson]

I have 4 in .22 LR a Remington 597 in SS with the laminated stock, 200 from a dealer.
A Marlin model 60 SS, 175 at Walmart.
A Savage Mark 1, single shot, 150 from a dealer.
A CZ452, 250 from a dealer.
The Remington shoots very well but it's magazine sensitive, only functions well with the magazines Remington made later, the first batch was messed up, has last shot hold lock.
The Marlin is tube fed and never jams, I like it because it has a last shot lock and you can lock it back even futher for cleaning. It's light and compact to carry out in the woods.
Savage is darn accurate and easy to use and clean. Nice little single shot for 150.
The CZ is very accurate and the best shooter, It has has nice adjustable sights, it was sighted in out the box. (the rest wasn't)

 

[nate1714]

I would recommend the Marlin 60 in stead of the Ruger 10/22. I like the tube feed feature and in my experience they(marlin 60) are very reliable. New at the walmart around $150ish for the stainless steel around $200. I dont think the stainless steel if necessary unless you plan on being out doors a lot, plus I prefer the classic blued barrel look. Dont forget that in addition to the rifle you will need to buy a cleaning kit, safty supplies, oils, case/sock, ect...

 

[sixgunner455]

I have a friend buy a CZ in 17 HMR and says its better than the 22 due to its balistics. 22 ammo is much cheaper though.

.22 ammo being so much cheaper makes it better.

 

[sixgunner455]

CZ452 if you want accuracy, but it may be out of your budget. Can't get any more accurate for less than $1000.

10/22 otherwise. They can be fun. Not nearly as accurate as some others though (not even close to the CZ452).

That all depends on how much money you want to throw at one. The .22 rifles used in most 3 gun competitions are hot-rodded 10/22 rifles. They are pretty accurate, by all accounts.

 

[Old CW4]

For a first rifle, I recommend a single shot or, at most, a bolt action. The one shot at a time type rifles get one into marksmanship, etc. The new shooter learns to avoid what I call 'the Chinese firecracker syndrome,' i.e., empty the magazine just to hear it go bang. Learn marksmanship, safety, etc. first, then go (or don't go) to semi autos later.

 

[sams]

The Anshutz is worth the money, around $700.00 One of the most accurate rifles out there. Used ones imported by Savage may be cheaper .

Winchester model 52 is another classic.

And a Weatherby Mk XX is great too!

 

[charadeur]

For a first rifle, I recommend a single shot or, at most, a bolt action. The one shot at a time type rifles get one into marksmanship, etc. The new shooter learns to avoid what I call 'the Chinese firecracker syndrome,' i.e., empty the magazine just to hear it go bang. Learn marksmanship, safety, etc. first, then go (or don't go) to semi autos later.

Old CW4 hits the nail on the head. I would not make your first rifle a semi auto. 22 cal ammo is so cheap that it just promotes you wanting to just keep shooting until you hit something. Single shot is best in my opinion. If you really feel the need then a bolt action or the Henry would work. I really am not a fan of the semi auto 22 for much of anything.

There is also no better survival gun than a 22 cal single shot. Simple mechanism so there is very little that can break. You can carry enough ammo to feed yourself for years to come. The AR or AK may get you to the high country but once there give me a single shot 22 every time.

 

[22-rimfire]

In the inexpensive 22 rifle relm, your best choices are one of the follows: Marlin Model 60 (semi-auto), a Savage Mark II, or a Marlin bolt action. I believe the Walmart version of the Mark II does not have the accu-trigger. You will probably want that trigger if you choose a Savage.

I would not choose a Ruger 10/22 as my first 22 rifle. I have one. Have had it for years. Shoots okay, just generally not as good as the Marlin M60. I have been buying bolt action 22's of late even though I picked up a nice Marlin 39A earlier this year. Great rifle and highly recommended; just over your budget.

 

[H2OCutter]

you may to have look at them somewhat of a sleeper,
http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290935

 

[koyote]

I very strongly second the suggestion to not get a semi-auto for a first rifle. Nearly any bolt or lever gun you find in a store new at this point will be okay, I'd like to say that the savage is a great gun.

I have or have had several older "department store" (ranger and western field) .22 rifles that were full sized, heavily built, super accurate and dependable rifles. If you have a good gun store where you can pick one up from a reliable source, you can get $300 of rifle for $90. They have no collector value, so the prices are way under what you'd pay for a vintage savage or marlin- even if they are the SAME GUN.

In recommending used, I have to say, make sure whoever is selling it to you can answer safety questions and is willing to show you what to look for in a good gun- if there's a gunsmith at a local gun shop, that's a bonus.

specialty ammo is a reason to stay with bolt or lever or single shot

I am going way the hell out on a limb here and I'm going to suggest that your first 2000 rounds go through a new H&R .22 Sportster. (and I think you can order up a .17hmr or .22wmr barrel after you have the .22 version)- lightweight, single shot, you will learn to shoot, slowly, accurately, and with precision in loading and safety.

and when your 10/22 jams (in a year or so when you get one), you can always break out the H&R

 

[K Williams]

Hello, Im turning 18 in december and was wondering If i need a permit to buy a rifle and keep it in my house and use it for PEST control, ETC. also could you guys reccomend me something good and under the $200 price range, and could you post pictures of your .22 and your kills.

Pest control around your house? How about a .22 cal pellet rifle. Check out Pyramyd Air for the rifles. Still, check the legality of purchase and exterminating small game in your area.

 

[milani74]

I've also got a .17HMR, and it's not "better". But, it's different. They move faster, and tend to have a little flatter trajectory. I use mine mostly for groundhogs, when I want to reach out and touch something from a farther distance. However, the V-max bullets that I use tend to tear up meat (that is really the point, since it is a varmint round), and you would not want that in a hunting situation where you plan to eat the meat from the kill.

Good point Lee. I think thought the OP said he wanted to kill stuff due to pest control. Your right though, if he wants to use it to hunt, better to go with a 22.

.22 ammo being so much cheaper makes it better.

Dont say that too loud! The prices will go up on it too.