.22lr/.410 combos

dougo83

dougo83

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I am sure there is a thread on this, but I am in the market for one of these for not only packing, but to teach the lady friend how to shoot with. I figured a low caliber combo would be nice. A couple of qualifications:

1. I want this caliber/ga. combo.

2. preferably o/u

3.I don't want to drop more than $200

4. probably looking for a youth model


What do you guys recommend given my requirements/preference and bearing in mind that I have narrowed down my list from other comparable or even superior tools?

PeACE
Dougo
 
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I love my Rossi. Its a sweet shooter. Picked this one up for 60.00 used.

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Threw a hanger in there for size. It packs down small!!
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dougo83 said:
I am sure there is a thread on this, but I am in the market for one of these for not only packing, but to teach the lady friend how to shoot with. I figured a low caliber combo would be nice. A couple of qualifications:

1. I want this caliber/ga. combo.

2. preferably o/u

3.I don't want to drop more than $200

4. probably looking for a youth model


What do you guys recommend?

PeACE
Dougo
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Honestly I am not a huge fan of any of the combo guns I am aware of and not a big fan of 410 period, hate to be negative, but just being honest. The reason I don't like them is that it is very hard to put a scope on, they are heavy for their size and expensive for what you get. The 410 is a rather anemic shotgun that carries a very small amount of shot, the M6 version has a cylinder bore barrel and will take game at only very close range, with any model IMO the 410 is marginal at best.

I would suggest that you start with a 22, maybe a 10/22 or the very accurate CZ 452 trainer. Both can be had for under 200 dollars and are a lot of bang for the buck, easy to scope and perfect to teach a newcomer to shoot. As far as a shotgun I love my NEF 20 gauge, for about 100 bucks it will keep a little meat in your pot for sure. The 20 will reliably kill anything from whitetails to rabbits and with light target loads won't kick you to death either. Chris
 
I respectfullly disagree with you Runningboar. The 410 is more than capable of taking small game as well as waterfowl. In fact I have recently taken limits of geese with a 410. I agree that it has it's limitations but I would not call it a marginal weapon.

I don't thing you will find a o/u 22/410 for around $200.00 I think you are going to have spend a lot more than that. The Rossi combo is a nice little gun for the money. You are going to get a gun that is light weight, compact and shoots where you point it. If your lady friend is small then the youth size will be just right for her.
 
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valcas1 said:
I respectfullly disagree with you Runningboar. The 410 is more than capable of taking small game as well as waterfowl. In fact I have recently taken limits of geese with a 410.
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WHOA! I don't want to be hunting next to you, man! :eek:

You must be one hell of a shot. Congrats. Please bear in mind, however that the rest of us probably do not possess your great skill with a 410. For most folks a 20 (or a 12 for that matter) Gauge has a LOT more pellets... and most of us need all we can get. ;):D

For your new shooter, DOUGO, I'd start her off with something easy to shoot like a 22 rifle. Teach her the basics of safety, how the rifle operates, and then basic marksmanship skills including breathing and trigger control. Make sure she wears earplugs. If she is successful she will enjoy it. :thumbup: Start her off with a shotgun and she will likely develop a 'flinch'... :thumbdn: hard habit for some folks to break.
 
j williams said:
I love my Rossi. Its a sweet shooter. Picked this one up for 60.00 used.
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Have you ever shot .45 LC's through that .410 bbl? I wonder if it would work... :confused: If so, how is the accuracy... I'm assuming it is not a rifled BBL.

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I think you have to illiminate the choke for that...the .45lc is slightly larger in diameter than a choked .410..h&R makes a barrel for there shotguns that is a .410/45 lc with a removable choke...(sounds like fun)
 
kdstrick said:
Have you ever shot .45 LC's through that .410 bbl? I wonder if it would work... :confused: If so, how is the accuracy... I'm assuming it is not a rifled BBL.

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Never done it. Didnt know you could.... I suspect the choke is too tight though...

it would be sweet though!!!
 
As mentioned above, I don't think you'll find a .22/.410 for under $200. The Savages and possibly some of the Russian imports are all that springs to mind offhand and they cost more than that. The M6's if you can find one used but they're running more than that these days as well.

For that price range you'll probably have to get a two barrel set like that Rossi posted above or the H&R equivalent. My buddy just got a Rossi youth set up like that new for $89 at Dicks Sporting Goods during hunting season.
 
Savage 24 is the way to go although you will probably have to find one used and they are about double what you want to pay. Especially with a walnut stock vs synthetic.
 
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Sounds like a savage 24 to me...they are nice but HEAVY!!!
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I am a big fan of the savage 24 combos. Have used them for years. Gave my son the 410/22. It shoots slugs well close in. Pick your shots with the 410 and get closer to your game. Minimal recoil. I like the 22/20 camper with cylinder bore. Weight wise you get use to what you use. Single shots you make them count. They are getting pricy for what they are. Around 350 to 400 dollars. I pick them up when I can.
 
I bought a Savage 410 22 combo used. The shell selector was worn out. Both barrells would fire at the same time. Sold that gun at a big loss.
 
As I recall, seems like the 410/22 over and under were a big thing for a starter gun when I was a kid back in the 50's. I always wanted one, I thought they were cool. They're probably antique/collectibles now. Instead, the first gun my Dad gave me was a Savage hammerless with interchangeable .30-30 and 12 ga barrels. Much more useful in the long run. Bagged my first pheasant with it, still have it.

I highly recommend the CZ 452 bolt, a very sweet and accurate shooter :)
 
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I was given a 22/410 Savage model 24 when I was around 10 or so (I am now 33). Over the years I have killed all sorts of game with this gun using both the 22 and the 410 bore. Keep in mind that though the 410 does not carry a large shot charge having both a full choke (as Most 410's have) and rifle sights toput that charge righ on target makes the model 24 a very efficient firearm. I am not a fan of the newer Savages as they have sythetic stocks and are very heavy.

I also own a Savage model 24C which is known as the camper model. This one is a 22/20ga with 18" or 20" barrels (can't remember) and has a compartment in the buttstock to hold both rimfires and shotgun shells. This model for some reason is very desirable but to be honest with you I have taken more game with the 410. I think this is due to the 24C having a cylinder bore. I guess Savage wanted the users of the Camper model to have the ability to shoot slugs with out any choke issues. At some point I would like to have My 24C rechamberd for 22mag and have a choke installed in the shotgun barrel.

Both the vintage Savages and the newer Remington Spartan combo guns will run you $300+ but they are worth it tome if you want the ability to switch from one caliber to another.

The M6 scouts are nice too but not as a serious hunting gun IMO. The lack of choke and the funky trigger are not that great on a hunting arm. When they were $200 I would have loved to have one for a truck gun but now that prices are in the $500++, I think I'm all set!
 
Since I wouldn't have any practical means of storing meat from med-large game, I'm just interested in getting an easy way to keep small game in the pot. Other than that, I want something to keep me safe from 2 legged goobers. Hence I prefer my Savage MkII .22 rifle, and a decent pistol (lots of good options there too).
 
the gimp said:
I was given a 22/410 Savage model 24 when I was around 10 or so (I am now 33). Over the years I have killed all sorts of game with this gun using both the 22 and the 410 bore. Keep in mind that though the 410 does not carry a large shot charge having both a full choke (as Most 410's have) and rifle sights toput that charge righ on target makes the model 24 a very efficient firearm. I am not a fan of the newer Savages as they have sythetic stocks and are very heavy.

I also own a Savage model 24C which is known as the camper model. This one is a 22/20ga with 18" or 20" barrels (can't remember) and has a compartment in the buttstock to hold both rimfires and shotgun shells. This model for some reason is very desirable but to be honest with you I have taken more game with the 410. I think this is due to the 24C having a cylinder bore. I guess Savage wanted the users of the Camper model to have the ability to shoot slugs with out any choke issues. At some point I would like to have My 24C rechamberd for 22mag and have a choke installed in the shotgun barrel.

Both the vintage Savages and the newer Remington Spartan combo guns will run you $300+ but they are worth it tome if you want the ability to switch from one caliber to another.

The M6 scouts are nice too but not as a serious hunting gun IMO. The lack of choke and the funky trigger are not that great on a hunting arm. When they were $200 I would have loved to have one for a truck gun but now that prices are in the $500++, I think I'm all set!
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Uh...hmm..OK

I have both .22/.410 and .22/20 in older walnut Savage Mdl 24's (DL). The .22/410 just doesn't get used...at all. I can hunt all I want, every day of every season...the .22/.410 doesn't get used at all. Factors are: cost, efficacy, types of shot available, heck...even shell availability.

I know a lot of hunters. I've never known one to hunt wild geese successfully with a .410. Greenskeepers might use them on golf course ponds. Maybe. Just my experience.

For what you said you want, get the two-barrel set, with .22/20ga. Or, if you just want her to shoot a shotgun and don't care about it having utility otherwise...get the .410. If you want a gauge that can serve more than that single purpose...put a pad..(if they need one..might have one) on the 20ga.


The very best of the Mdl 24's are the "C" model...because of the ability to shoot slugs through them, but you give up range for your shot pattern for upland game and waterfowl.

Oh, and the synthetic stocked 24s are heavier.

Your choice. I'm sure others have difference experiences and different opinions.



Kis
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Dougo83,

I am not aware of any current gun that fits your criteria for $200.00

However you could buy 2 Rossi combos for a little over $200.00 I would also like to get a O/U in the calibers you mentioned but it just doesn't seem to exist.

I can only tell you from my experience that the Rossi does what it is supposed to do, and does it all the time.

The .22/410 just doesn't get used...at all.
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Hey Kismet shoot me a PM and let me know if you want to sell that thing...
 
Hey Kismet shoot me a PM and let me know if you want to sell that thing...
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Naw...I'll hang on it, seems to be one of the few of my guns that is an investment, instead of a hunting tool.

Thanks though.
 
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