.22lr/.410 combos

First off A 410 is not a beginners gun

You will be lucky to find a 22/410 for under $350 (The springfield m-6 are bringing stupid prices)

The early m-6's springfield made themselves were in fact cylinder bore the ones CZ made for them are full choke I've killed many rabbits and squirrel with mine

I don't have trouble hitting quail or dove with a 410 so hitting a goose in the head shouldn't be a problem

410/45 barrels are 45's first >410bore it is .410 dia before the choke, chokes measure .380-.390 for a full choke 45 colt bullet is .452 plus 410's are designed to operate at 11,000 psi 45 colts operate at 25-30,000 psi
:confused: I'll let you decide on using a 45 in a 410

I love how every time some one mentions a 410 some one jumps in about it not being enough gun. The most likely senario of having to gather game is storm or such with extended power outages, you would be at home if you can't havest game regularly out you back door with a 410. You really need to work on knowing game habitat and habits before you buy a bigger gun.
Roy
 
kdstrick...that is kind of what I am intending. I guess I will have to buy 2 separate rifles. She wants to shoot, but I wonder what her interest will be after a few runs at the range. The reason for a 22lr/410 in a youth model was to have 1 she could shoot that I could also lash to the pack when I am out and about...Maybe I'll just buy myself a combo and get her the Mossberg .22 Plinkster? My dad and grandpa got 'em for Christmas and they are pretty good little guns for $100.
 
Just another favorable comment about the savage 24. I have one of the early ones with a button selector and it is one of my favorite firearms. Fantastic squrell gun, but it is heavy! If you want to use it for hunting I highly recomend some form of carry strap. I have a scope on mine and the aim point of both barrels is very close, the .410 hits just a little below the .22 but easy to accomidate. I have spoken with other mod. 24 owners who state that ther barrels are not so nicely lined up IE. one is a little to the right or left of the other. I have not experienced this phenomenon, but there you go. Check out gunbroker.com every couple of weeks or so a mod. 24 will pop up the average price seems to be between 260 and 400 depending on varing factors but right now is probably a good time. All in all this rifle does not dissapoint.
 
Aetrox said:
Just another favorable comment about the savage 24. I have one of the early ones with a button selector and it is one of my favorite firearms. Fantastic squrell gun, but it is heavy! If you want to use it for hunting I highly recomend some form of carry strap. I have a scope on mine and the aim point of both barrels is very close, the .410 hits just a little below the .22 but easy to accomidate. I have spoken with other mod. 24 owners who state that ther barrels are not so nicely lined up IE. one is a little to the right or left of the other. I have not experienced this phenomenon, but there you go. Check out gunbroker.com every couple of weeks or so a mod. 24 will pop up the average price seems to be between 260 and 400 depending on varing factors but right now is probably a good time. All in all this rifle does not dissapoint.
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You will have to put one of those barrel band swivels for the front part of the sling. If you drill the forearm it will pop of with tension. A stupid mistake I made years ago on a single shot. I do love those savages.
 
plumberroy said:
First off A 410 is not a beginners gun

You will be lucky to find a 22/410 for under $350 (The springfield m-6 are bringing stupid prices)

The early m-6's springfield made themselves were in fact cylinder bore the ones CZ made for them are full choke I've killed many rabbits and squirrel with mine

I don't have trouble hitting quail or dove with a 410 so hitting a goose in the head shouldn't be a problem

410/45 barrels are 45's first >410bore it is .410 dia before the choke, chokes measure .380-.390 for a full choke 45 colt bullet is .452 plus 410's are designed to operate at 11,000 psi 45 colts operate at 25-30,000 psi
:confused: I'll let you decide on using a 45 in a 410

I love how every time some one mentions a 410 some one jumps in about it not being enough gun. The most likely senario of having to gather game is storm or such with extended power outages, you would be at home if you can't havest game regularly out you back door with a 410. You really need to work on knowing game habitat and habits before you buy a bigger gun.
Roy
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You take your 410 I'll take my 20 or 12 and lets see who kills more geese. Not to mention non toxic shotshells in 410 are $2.50 a piece, plus shipping, I have never seen them locally available, compared to 20, 410s cost almost twice as much. Your right, a 410 is not a beginners gun, I love mine for rabbit and dove, feathered way to many quail and not recovered them to keep using it for anything else. Chris
 
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runningboar said:
You take your 410 I'll take my 20 or 12 and lets see who kills more geese. Not to mention non toxic shotshells in 410 are $2.50 cents apiece, plus shipping, I have never seen them locally available, compared to 20, 410s cost almost twice as much. Your right, a 410 is not a beginners gun, I love mine for rabbit and dove, feathered way to many quail and not recovered them to keep using it for anything else. Chris
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Ok...let's take this elsewhere...like...to your PM's...mk? I'm tryin to get relevant information, not your "which caliber is better?" business...I don't care which caliber is better in your mind. You will notice that I directly answered that in the initial posting where I edited in that I have basically considered other options and this is specifically what I am looking for. I am plenty proficient with any gun I put in my hands and am looking for one that is LIGHT and COST-EFFECTIVE. For me, a .22lr/.410 fits the bill. Not a 20 ga, not a 12 ga, not a .45LC, not a bazooka...

So please, would you 2 take your fight outside...
 
dougo83 said:
Ok...let's take this elsewhere...like...to your PM's...mk? I'm tryin to get relevant information, not your "which caliber is better?" business...I don't care which caliber is better in your mind. You will notice that I directly answered that in the initial posting where I edited in that I have basically considered other options and this is specifically what I am looking for. I am plenty proficient with any gun I put in my hands and am looking for one that is LIGHT and COST-EFFECTIVE. For me, a .22lr/.410 fits the bill. Not a 20 ga, not a 12 ga, not a .45LC, not a bazooka...

So please, would you 2 take your fight outside...
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My apologies, I had no idea you already had your mind made up, I am at a loss as to what your question is. I will respect your wishs and not post my opinions in your threads, although I guess I was mistaken thinking that was what a message board is for. Chris
 
For what you said you want, get the two-barrel set. Or, if you just want her to shoot a shotgun and don't care about it having utility otherwise...get the .410.

Like I said...hope she has fun. If nothing else....22s make converts out of folks who think guns are "evil." :)



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I didn't not mean to upset you runningboar I don't think a 410 is a good goose gun just it can be done. I decided long before the days of steel shot I didn't care for goose meat. Most people under estimate what a 410 can do in the hands of a skilled hunter

Duogo83 if you want a packable shotgun take a H&R youth gun and change out the stock to a choate synthetic adult stock and store arm forearm , the one H&R uses on their survivor rifle . makes a light short shotgun that breaks down with out tools I have a 28 ga set up like that :thumbup:
Roy
 
plumberroy said:
I didn't not mean to upset you runningboar I don't think a 410 is a good goose gun just it can be done. I decided long before the days of steel shot I didn't care for goose meat. Most people under estimate what a 410 can do in the hands of a skilled hunter

Duogo83 if you want a packable shotgun take a H&R youth gun and change out the stock to a choate synthetic adult stock and store arm forearm , the one H&R uses on their survivor rifle . makes a light short shotgun that breaks down with out tools I have a 28 ga set up like that :thumbup:
Roy
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No worries, my feathers are almost never as ruffled as people think. Chris
 
This thread has got me interested, so if I deviate from the subject a bit my apologies(does save a bit of space though?) Combo guns look a good idea but I can very much see their limitations.It got me thinking about small bore/gauge shot-guns as a starter gun. I didn't like the kick I got from a 12 as an inexperienced adololescent shooter, poor training/technique. I want a pest control gun and been wondering about a 20 bore/gauge pump action.Do they kick a lot? Which makers offer them? Thanks for your ideas, and sorry if I deviate.
 
Well you may have to start hiking fro pawn shop to gun shop to pawn shop, but I think you can find something decent for under or around your$200. I use to have a .22/.410 and it was ok, but like Kismet said or tried to explain if you found a .22/20 ga. I think that would be much better. most of these combo guns don't have much choke in the shotgun and a 20 ga. slug has some thump if you make your shots count.

lots of options and even more opinions, hoope you find what you want. Pat
 
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