25" Sirupati Or 25" Kobra

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DPris

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As an implement of fightation, purely on merits, assuming one were in the market for such an item for such a purpose, which one & why?

For field use, toss in zombies, polar bears, marauding sea turtles, and the occasional bit of annoying shrubbery.

Recognizing technique would be at least slightly modified (less of a straight chop-down) as opposed to a shorter & heavier chopper, which would be more effective as a weapon?

How do you think the tang area of either or both would compare, strength-wise, to the same area for the same uses as a typical European medieval one-handed broadsword? (I know- apples vs tangerines.)

Assuming the same differential hardening style, so both would have sweet-spot-only tempering?

Could bending in the non-hardened blade sections be a potential liability?

Anybody used either one HARD? (Details of effectiveness on zombies might be fun to hear about.... :) )
Denis
 
The Kobra's tend to a bit more "fragile" than the Sirupati's especially when its anything over 22inches or so. The Siru is probably the stronger of the two and the Kobra is the lightest of the two. It all depends of the Kami who makes it. I have a Sher 20in Kobra that is built like a tank. Its almost 30oz! which is heavy for a kobra.
 
gurkha pretty much nailed it. I have a 25" Siru, one of my first long khuks. It's pretty light and nimble.
I also have a 25" chitlangi which I believe is even lighter and nimbler.

I just recently got a shorter 18'' ?? Kobra which by comparison weight wise is a tank. But I love it just the same.

The kobra is usually lightest of the bunch. None I would consider a hard chopper.
 
I have a 30" sirupati. It is a monster. My son used it to chop down a little tree that had grown up by the house. No damage whatsoever However, it is heavy. I don't know if you could use it like a one handed sword.
 
DPris said:
As an implement of fightation, purely on merits, assuming one were in the market for such an item for such a purpose, which one & why?

For field use, toss in zombies, polar bears, marauding sea turtles, and the occasional bit of annoying shrubbery.
Recognizing technique would be at least slightly modified (less of a straight chop-down) as opposed to a shorter & heavier chopper, which would be more effective as a weapon?
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Kobra definitely due to its weight.

oops accidentally hit the post button. Gotta go pick up my wife and tell her I bought my first Purna. Ill finish filling this out when I get back...If im still alive and able:confused:

Then she made me go out and pick berries so I brought the 25" Siru.
 
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Yall got polar bears and marauding sea turtles in Utah? Who knew...
 
I have no intentions of using one on anybody, swords & edged fighting are not my thing.
I'm looking for evaluations & opinions of which one might be better as a weapon, and why.
Curious.

There's a reference to martial artists on the site, so I thought the subject of use AS a weapon would be fair game.
The zombie bit was just a minor injection of humor.
The using one HARD question was relating to strength on whatever medium. :)

Lighter weight would be faster, heavier weight would penetrate deeper.
Pretty much the same generalized argument as with light/heavy bullet weights, I'd assume?
Denis
 
Generally speaking from everything I've seen and learned the Kobra is the fighter of the ones you mention. The Siru and the Chitlangi are runnin neck and neck right behind it but again, depending on the kami, there are exceptions.

And we got zero tolerance for that minor humor injection stuff round these parts, iffen it ain't side splittin laugh till you cry funny, just keep it to ya self.

Had a fella just now on another forum trying to hook me up with a power chair rep, told the dude I was his CO in Nam.

Now that's funny. And that's whole nuther country.

I better sign up for that dementia test, I can't seem to type for beans lately. I'll fix this while I'm here I hope.
 
DPris said:
There's a reference to martial artists on the site, so I thought the subject of use AS a weapon would be fair game.
Denis
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In the case of martial arts and using it in forms and such, I just don't like the blade over 18" in any sort of khukuri shape.

Swords on the other hand are a totally different issue.

Same goes for where one would like the point of balance to be on their khukuri or sword. Some like neutral, a little forward, or more forward.

Me personally, I prefer khuks no more than 18", and neutral in hand. I like my swords neutral, and as close to the bolster as possible, on the blade side, length, not really an issue with me.

That being said, I love my 18" Chitlangi, Siru, and Tibetan Long Sword.
 
Bawanna,
They might just as easily fan out West from Idaho.

You guys think the longer blades are still more agricultural tool than weapon?

Is there much history on the Tibetan swords?
Denis
 
Aw heck, never thunk of that neither, I'm sleeping with the light on tonight for sure.

Lets see 416 Rigby for marauding turtles and 505 Gibbs for Polar bars. That sound bout right.

I like em neutral too with the boom on the fur end.
 
Denis: In general the Kobra has the thinnest more acute edge profile, Chitlangi in the middle and Sirupati the thicker more obtuse edge profile. The weights can vary greatly depending on Kami so it may be possible to have a Chilangi that weighs more than a Sirupati for example. I can tell you from personal experience that if the blade was made properly that you are more likely to roll the edge up pretty bad before you break or bend the blade. Im not saying I have tested one to destruction and would not do it but I have seen the signs of hard use and I have pushed my 25" siru just at its limits. Yesterday I tried to whack through a pine knot on a fallen tree and I rolled the edge in three places. I knew better but still wanted to test its limits:rolleyes: I found it. Each roll about 8mm wide and 2-3mm deep. I peened it back on the anvil and took it for a beating again this evening and no problem. Like new again:thumbup:
 
DPris said:
I have no intentions of using one on anybody, swords & edged fighting are not my thing.
I'm looking for evaluations & opinions of which one might be better as a weapon, and why.
Curious.

There's a reference to martial artists on the site, so I thought the subject of use AS a weapon would be fair game.
The zombie bit was just a minor injection of humor.
The using one HARD question was relating to strength on whatever medium. :)

Lighter weight would be faster, heavier weight would penetrate deeper.
Pretty much the same generalized argument as with light/heavy bullet weights, I'd assume?
Denis
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No worries. It's become common knowledge that I evaluate all of my kukris as weapons first. Every time I post a review it's from the perspective of using that kukri as a weapon. I don't think anyone has issues with people asking questions about using kukris as weapon.

As fighters go, my personal preference is to go for close to 1 oz per inch. However that can leave the kukri limited in terms of general utility, or so I'm told. My Purna Chainpuri comes in at 15 inches and 16 ounces, and it is without a doubt my favorite kukri. The only flaw it has in my opinion is that the scabbard is very tight, making it very slow to draw.

Keep in mind with cutting that while larger kukris will have more momentum, assisting them in the cut, they also have thicker blades which against say humans reduce the cutting ability. As a general rule, broadness promotes cutting, thickness does not.
 
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