3:10 to Yuma

I liked 3:10. It's gotten to the point that anything with Christian Bale I see, I haven't been disappointed once.
A couple others of his to check out would be
The Machinist; that's the one where he first lost all the weight. In the movie he doesn't know what's real and what's imagined, very trippy. Jennifer Jason Leigh is not unattractive in it also.
Harsh Times; former soldier, kind of an urban western, very sad.
American Psycho; he's a total psycho in this, very very non-children friendly

I'm surprised noone's mentioned the Assassination of Jesse James; it's not a typical western, I'll grant you that, but I enjoyed it. Slow paced, lots of talkie talkie, but worth it in the end. Reminded me of an older style of filmmaking where the payoff can come days after the movie.

A very interesting western is "the Proposition." It's an australian western with trippy music by Nick Cave, and I think he also wrote the script. Pretty bloody, very interesting.

I'm sure I've forgotten a couple, but hey.
 
oddly, i dont really care for bale, but have liked his movies as well.

the machinest was very odd, but definitely worth watching.

i liked "assasination" too, but wouldn't rank it up there with unforgiven or yuma. the proposition definitely gets an honorable mention as well. very violent, great story.
 
To those who have seen it, do you consider "No Country for Old Men" a western? I thought it exemplified most of the traits of a western, and as far as "art" goes, it blows Unforgiven out of the water. I've never seen so much allegory and hidden meaning in a movie.

1. No Country for Old Men
2. Pale Rider
3. Unforgiven
4. Open Range
 
how about good ole 'Quigley Down Under' enjoyed that one as well
not a traditional western/southern movie but like it.

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Quigley was okay, but too much Magnum PI in his character :)

There is also Hang 'Em High and Bronco-Billy - two mediocre Clint Eastwood's

I agree - Man Who Shot Liberty Valance was pretty darn good partner. The review sites also tend to lament Shane - but I didn't enjoy it that much.
 
kgd said:
Three Brurials of Melquiades Estrada - stars Tommy Lee Jones is an awesome modern western + morality tale
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I can say I have never seen that movie and never will after that one TL Jones went from being a pretty decent actor to a smoking turd in my book.
 
Machaira said:
God bless John Wayne .



M.
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I hate to say it but harder and harder to find role models; I really hated to learn that John Wayne hid behind movie making instead of serving his country especially after making movies like “The Green Berets"
 
TheGreyMan said:
To those who have seen it, do you consider "No Country for Old Men" a western? I thought it exemplified most of the traits of a western, and as far as "art" goes, it blows Unforgiven out of the water. I've never seen so much allegory and hidden meaning in a movie.

1. No Country for Old Men
2. Pale Rider
3. Unforgiven
4. Open Range
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I will admit it I can be dense I don’t look for allegory or hidden meaning when I watch a movie. I just took it at face value of a bunch of old timers who couldn’t deal with the realties of the start of the drug wars.

The movie was interesting but I guess since I didn’t pick up on all the hidden stuff it was no more than that. I was pondering other things like was there a Wal-Mart in rural SW Texas in the late 70 or early 80s when that was supposed to take place. That and the can on the shotgun looked pretty small.:D
 
By the way, folks, I was just kidding about the LeMat pistol thing.

I figured that would be the only way someone could fire 13 shots from 2 guns (if KC was using 2) without reloading.

The LeMat was a revolver that could fire 9 .42 caliber bullets without reloading. Plus is had a additional .63 caliber smoothbore barrel for buckshot or grapeshot.

http://www.civilwar.si.edu/weapons_lemat.html#

"This .42 caliber LeMat revolver has a nine-chambered cylinder and weighs about four pounds. What makes this revolver unique is the addition of a second smoothbore barrel, of approximately .63 caliber, underneath the barrel. This larger barrel was designed to fire buckshot. The top of the hammer was fitted with a pivoting striker that could be rotated to fire the .42 caliber rounds or changed to fire the lower, larger barrel.

This percussion revolver was designed by Dr. Jean Alexandre Francois LeMat, of New Orleans. LeMat was assisted in this enterprise by P. G. T. Beauregard, one of the Confederacy’s well known generals. These revolvers were manufactured from 1856 to 1865, with less than 2,900 being produced. They were made in Paris, France, and Birmingham, England. Many were purchased by the Confederacy and used by such famous high-ranking Confederate officers as J. E. B. Stuart."
 
The Missouri Breaks, with Brando and Nicholson. Loved the praire Star weapon Brando had. Also loved the Outlaw Jose Wales.


Paul
 
i really liked "old country". i agree it had many western themes and archtypes, but not a true western in the traditional sense.

im not sure i get all the allegory/symbolism, but i surely enjoyed it. im reading the book now, and almost to the end.

the movie is very true to the book, except for a few minor changes.
 
I liked it but thoght the ending could have been a little more dramatic.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
i really liked "old country". i agree it had many western themes and archtypes, but not a true western in the traditional sense.

im not sure i get all the allegory/symbolism, but i surely enjoyed it. im reading the book now, and almost to the end.

the movie is very true to the book, except for a few minor changes.
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If I made it sound like I understood all the allegories in the movie, then I misspoke and I apologize. I merely meant that the movie/book pretty much beats you over the head with them without giving you much time to come up for air and really think about what's going on.

Continuing the theme of "modern" westerns, has anyone seen the movie Red Rock West? Early 90's flick with Nick Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, and that bad guy from Speed. Fantastic movie with an incredible plot that harkens back to the old westerns.
 
TheGreyMan said:
If I made it sound like I understood all the allegories in the movie, then I misspoke and I apologize. I merely meant that the movie/book pretty much beats you over the head with them without giving you much time to come up for air and really think about what's going on.

Continuing the theme of "modern" westerns, has anyone seen the movie Red Rock West? Early 90's flick with Nick Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, and that bad guy from Speed. Fantastic movie with an incredible plot that harkens back to the old westerns.
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no apology necessary.

but i was feelin dumb for not gettin it all. ;)
 
TheGreyMan said:
If I made it sound like I understood all the allegories in the movie, then I misspoke and I apologize. I merely meant that the movie/book pretty much beats you over the head with them without giving you much time to come up for air and really think about what's going on.

Continuing the theme of "modern" westerns, has anyone seen the movie Red Rock West? Early 90's flick with Nick Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, and that bad guy from Speed. Fantastic movie with an incredible plot that harkens back to the old westerns.
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I finally saw Red Rock West a few years ago. I used to live on the same street that they would go in and out of town on. For years the building they used as the Sheriffs Office had Red Rock Sheriffs Office still painted on the window. That building is now some sort of little shop and the bar is now a half way decent coffee shop considering the area.
 
I liked 3:10.Damn good.I liked Bale and Crowe in that one.
Unforgiven.No elaboration needed.
Ned Kelly.One of the late Heath Ledger's better roles as the outlaw of the same name.
Seraphim Falls is a great chase/survival movie.
Purgatory is a good TNT movie but a fun watch none the less.
Big Jake.Man I really love that one.the Duke with a scattergun.Sweet.
But my personal favorite is The Outlaw Josey wells.I just love that movie from beginning to end."Well Mr.Carpetbagger,we got somethin in this territory called a Missouri Boat Ride."(BOOM)
 
That did have one of the better lines: Better get busy livin' or get busy dyin'.

I'd like to see a remake of that.
 
I liked No Country, even after all the hype it got; I didn't see it till a few weeks ago. Not a typical western, but a lot of these movies aren't "typical."
+1 on Seraphim Falls
And +1 on Josie Wales


I totally forgot on the Christian Bale front, "Rescue Dawn." German guy becomes a US citizen and pilot, first mission he gets shot down and thrown in a Vietnamese camp with a few other Amis and such; they break out, and a bunch of trippy stuff ensues.
The craziest thing was that what you see on camera really happened to the actors (except the plane getting shot down) and they shot the movie backwards because the lead characters lost a bunch of weight. Apparently it takes 6 months to lose that kind of weight, but only 3 weeks to get it back, which is how long it took to shoot the movie.
 
3:10 was great. I think there are lessons to learn from both the main characters. I'd have to say that my favorite seen was the end. There was a lot to gain from that last scene. Also, I haven't heard pinkerton in a western movie in a long time. Even though they played a very major role in that period of history they seem to be left out of most of the westerns.

In my opinion 3:10 to Yuma rates third behind "Unforgiven" and "Wyatt Earp."
 
My Name is Nobody...;)
G2
 
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