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It's like a 500 Duke, but with a fingerguard...actually quite solid in hand...
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3 Dot 112 , Pocket Melted , Shedua Re-Scaled
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It's like a 500 Duke, but with a fingerguard...actually quite solid in hand...
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Thanx bucksway, I did the rough forming and thinning with a sanding disc and drum, then finished forming by hand with sanding blocks and sanding sticks.
very low budget setup
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Thanks Sitfler again your talent is amazing and the thinned down 112 is such a comfort in the pocket verses a sheath yes some the the knives are quit special but have to start to let go, having buck do spa treatment and then some get put away some to use and some to new home's your 112 going nowhere but in my collection thanks again for sharing your idea's and talent
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Well done, Sit! I might have to try slimming one down myself!
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Pocket Melt Finishing - nice term ! I like it.Pardon my ignorance but where does Shedua come from ? I'll do some Googling tonight I think. There was a gentleman on this forum a few years back that (had?) worked at Buck and was an incredible source of information and parts for Buck folders. Anyone know his name or contact # ?. Several harddrive crashes have messed up my knifemaking files, so this time it all goes on a separate HDD.Thanks again -
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It's not on it's way to Floreeeda, it's ALREADY here!!!
Thank you Duane....this is one I'll carry a lot!! :thumbup:
You do beautiful work, the Shedua really sparkles, and the "pocket melt" feels great. This is a 112 that is going to jump into my pocket from the rest of my EDC's.
I got back to Florida last night and this beauty showed up in today's mail. Pretty good timing!!
Thank you Duane....this is one I'll carry a lot!! :thumbup:
You do beautiful work, the Shedua really sparkles, and the "pocket melt" feels great. This is a 112 that is going to jump into my pocket from the rest of my EDC's.
I got back to Florida last night and this beauty showed up in today's mail. Pretty good timing!!
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I think this info originally came from 300 Bucks.
Shedua:
BOTANICAL NAME: Guibourtia ehie of the family Leguminosae (Caesalpiniaceae ?)
COMMON NAMES: I have read that the name Shedua was coined by Paul Penberthy Sr. nearly 50 years ago when he first brought this species to the United States; why he felt the need to do that, I have no idea. Other common names include: amazakoue (ivory coast), amazaque, amazoue, anazahoue, and bar-tique, anokye, anokye (ghana), bubinga (although that name is really used almost exclusively for Guibourtia demeusei), ehie, gabon ovanko, hyedua, hyedua-nini, hyeduanini, kolima, mongoy, mongoy walnut, mozambique, mutenye, ovangkol, ovengkol, ovenkol, palissandro, pallisandro. It is sold in the USA primarily under the names shedua, mozambique, and ovengkol, and occasionally you might find it as amazakoue.
TYPE: hardwood.
COLOR: The heartwood has a wide range of colors from yellow-brown to dark brown or may be greenish brown / greenish gray, and often has stripes of a contrasting darker color, usually dark gray, near-black. Sometimes has an orange cast. The sapwood is yellow white, about 4 in. wide, clearly demarcated.
GRAIN / TEXTURE / FILLER / FINISH / LUSTER: Usually a really beautiful wood with a very attractive grain, a nice shimmer due to interlocked grain, and an interesting look because of heavy dark striping. Sometimes mottled. Texture is fine to medium (I have seen reports of moderately coarse but that has never been my experience). Paints, varnishes, stains and finishes very well, but anyone who paints or stains this wood should be shot. Polishes very well and can be brought to a medium to high luster. Some reports say it may stain in contact with ferous metal. Sometimes has whitish deposits in vessels.
PROPERTIES / WORKABILITY: A heavy, tough, strong, wood that is reasonably easy to work with both hand and machine tools (will saw a little slowly w/ hand saws). Stiffness, strength, and shock resistance are all reported as medium to high. Can be worked to a very smooth surface with only moderate blunting effect on cutting edges --- does sometimes have a light silica content and the interlocked grain can also cause minor difficulty. Glues, screws, and nails well with good holding power. Some reports recommend preboring. Does not carve easily, sands well and turns well (but keep your gouges sharp). For planing, a reduced cutting angle of 20 degrees and sharp cutting edges are recommended but the surface should come out clean. Moderate in characteristics for boring, mortising, and moulding.
Most reports say it is suitable for veneering but that it must be heated before slicing into veneers.
DURABILITY: highly resistant to the termites plaguing West Africa and is otherwise moderately durable. The sapwood is reported to absorb preservatives readily, but the heartwood is difficult to treat.
STABILITY: moderate movement in service, similar to red oak
BENDING: not recommended for steam bending
ODOR / TASTE: Freshly milled wood is reported to have a strong unpleasant odor which disappears after the wood is dried. There is no distinct taste.
SOURCES: found most often in rain forest and traditional forest areas in tropical west Africa, particularly the Ivory Coast, Ghana, Southern Nigeria and Gabon. Also found in Cameroon, Liberia, Equatorial Guinea, and Gabon.
USES: Used originally in the United States by the boating industry for cabin interiors, it is now being used in cabinetmaking, furniture, flooring, turning and other decorative applications, particularly where strength, beauty, and durability are all assets. In veneer form, shedua is used for architectural panels, doors, inlays and other quality fittings.
Other uses include: cutlery, decorative veneer, domestic flooring, doors, fine furniture, fittings, flooring, handles, high-class joinery, interior decorative fittings, joinery, musical instruments, paneling, paneling and bookshelves, plywood, sculpture, shop and office trim, shop fitting, tables, tool handles, turned items, turnery, veneer, woodware,
TREE: Reaches a height of 100 to 150 ft; boles straight, cylindrical, up to 70 ft in length, with trunk diameters 2 to 3 ft over buttresses that are occasionally well-developed. Old trees usually have narrow, slightly raised horizontal rings on the stems.
WEIGHT: 44 to 54 lbs/cu. ft.
DRYING: generally seasons rapidly and well, and is accompanied by little degrade, but thicker stock is reported to kiln-dry with difficulty, and requires care to avoid collapse.
Radial 5%
Tangential 9%
Volumetric 12%
AVAILABILITY: moderately available, especially in veneer form
COST: moderate
TOXICITY: none reported
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Shedua would no longer be used by Buck as it is a tropical hardwood, found in a country that exploited its forest resources to the point that concern for the species occurrs.
Shedua:
BOTANICAL NAME: Guibourtia ehie of the family Leguminosae (Caesalpiniaceae ?)
COMMON NAMES: I have read that the name Shedua was coined by Paul Penberthy Sr. nearly 50 years ago when he first brought this species to the United States; why he felt the need to do that, I have no idea. Other common names include: amazakoue (ivory coast), amazaque, amazoue, anazahoue, and bar-tique, anokye, anokye (ghana), bubinga (although that name is really used almost exclusively for Guibourtia demeusei), ehie, gabon ovanko, hyedua, hyedua-nini, hyeduanini, kolima, mongoy, mongoy walnut, mozambique, mutenye, ovangkol, ovengkol, ovenkol, palissandro, pallisandro. It is sold in the USA primarily under the names shedua, mozambique, and ovengkol, and occasionally you might find it as amazakoue.
TYPE: hardwood.
COLOR: The heartwood has a wide range of colors from yellow-brown to dark brown or may be greenish brown / greenish gray, and often has stripes of a contrasting darker color, usually dark gray, near-black. Sometimes has an orange cast. The sapwood is yellow white, about 4 in. wide, clearly demarcated.
GRAIN / TEXTURE / FILLER / FINISH / LUSTER: Usually a really beautiful wood with a very attractive grain, a nice shimmer due to interlocked grain, and an interesting look because of heavy dark striping. Sometimes mottled. Texture is fine to medium (I have seen reports of moderately coarse but that has never been my experience). Paints, varnishes, stains and finishes very well, but anyone who paints or stains this wood should be shot. Polishes very well and can be brought to a medium to high luster. Some reports say it may stain in contact with ferous metal. Sometimes has whitish deposits in vessels.
PROPERTIES / WORKABILITY: A heavy, tough, strong, wood that is reasonably easy to work with both hand and machine tools (will saw a little slowly w/ hand saws). Stiffness, strength, and shock resistance are all reported as medium to high. Can be worked to a very smooth surface with only moderate blunting effect on cutting edges --- does sometimes have a light silica content and the interlocked grain can also cause minor difficulty. Glues, screws, and nails well with good holding power. Some reports recommend preboring. Does not carve easily, sands well and turns well (but keep your gouges sharp). For planing, a reduced cutting angle of 20 degrees and sharp cutting edges are recommended but the surface should come out clean. Moderate in characteristics for boring, mortising, and moulding.
Most reports say it is suitable for veneering but that it must be heated before slicing into veneers.
DURABILITY: highly resistant to the termites plaguing West Africa and is otherwise moderately durable. The sapwood is reported to absorb preservatives readily, but the heartwood is difficult to treat.
STABILITY: moderate movement in service, similar to red oak
BENDING: not recommended for steam bending
ODOR / TASTE: Freshly milled wood is reported to have a strong unpleasant odor which disappears after the wood is dried. There is no distinct taste.
SOURCES: found most often in rain forest and traditional forest areas in tropical west Africa, particularly the Ivory Coast, Ghana, Southern Nigeria and Gabon. Also found in Cameroon, Liberia, Equatorial Guinea, and Gabon.
USES: Used originally in the United States by the boating industry for cabin interiors, it is now being used in cabinetmaking, furniture, flooring, turning and other decorative applications, particularly where strength, beauty, and durability are all assets. In veneer form, shedua is used for architectural panels, doors, inlays and other quality fittings.
Other uses include: cutlery, decorative veneer, domestic flooring, doors, fine furniture, fittings, flooring, handles, high-class joinery, interior decorative fittings, joinery, musical instruments, paneling, paneling and bookshelves, plywood, sculpture, shop and office trim, shop fitting, tables, tool handles, turned items, turnery, veneer, woodware,
TREE: Reaches a height of 100 to 150 ft; boles straight, cylindrical, up to 70 ft in length, with trunk diameters 2 to 3 ft over buttresses that are occasionally well-developed. Old trees usually have narrow, slightly raised horizontal rings on the stems.
WEIGHT: 44 to 54 lbs/cu. ft.
DRYING: generally seasons rapidly and well, and is accompanied by little degrade, but thicker stock is reported to kiln-dry with difficulty, and requires care to avoid collapse.
Radial 5%
Tangential 9%
Volumetric 12%
AVAILABILITY: moderately available, especially in veneer form
COST: moderate
TOXICITY: none reported
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Shedua would no longer be used by Buck as it is a tropical hardwood, found in a country that exploited its forest resources to the point that concern for the species occurrs.
Thanks to you, BG42Edge and Sitflyer, I don't have to google ! Thank you both. I used Bubinga once for a custom knife handle because I had some and it looked good, really good. Glad to know it wasn't toxic, like my iron wood, that smells bad, really bad. The iron wood smelled like dogs*#! right from start to the last sand and then a quick wipe with tung oil and de smell she wen' away. Relief is when the custom filleting knife you just finished DOESN'T stink, a lot and forever. I'll hang around this place and learn a bit, my first real folder was a 110 that I still have. The blade was badly abused at a knife shop that claimed to do expert sharpening. Someone on a forum suggested I mail it back to Buck and have a new blade put in. Any thoughts ?
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Depending on what shape the blade is in...is it full length? Buck can do wonders for a knife with a "spa" treatment...make 'em look like new, also they would re-sharpen the blade...again, depending on what shape the blade is in. Or they can re- blade a 110 ...for me it would depend on several factors, how old is the knife?