3 in 1 Mill/Drill/Lathe Combo

Darrin Sanders

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Would like some opinions on the Mill/Drill/Lathe Combo machines. How are they for knifemaking? Pro/Cons etc.. And if they are good machines for knifemaking would like to hear some good choices as far as make and model. Thanks, Darrin.
 
do you really want to get something that does a half-a$$ed job of three things?
I have a good 17 inch drill press that I use all of the time, three metal lathes (2 9 inch South Bends and a 19 inch Leblond, and a grizzly mill-drill. i have looked at several of the lathe-mill-drill combos, and most of them (grizzly, Jet, HarborFrieght) are crap, not really good for anything. if I had the money for one good tool, it would be a good 15 inch or larger drillpress. If I had a thousand dollars to put into a tool, it would be a Grizzly or Jet mill-drill large enough to use R-8 collets. You can use it in place of a drillpress. Your best bet for a lathe is a used South Bend in good shape. Parts are still available from SouthBend for every lathe they made

-Page
 
I'm on extremely tight space, so I was very tempted by the mill/drill combination. I ended up buying a Weiss WMD30 (similar to the PM-30MV), in part to negative reviews on mill/drills, particularly because of the issue with having to change setups drastically to switch over.

I haven't done a ton of stuff with it, but it's done everything I've asked of it, and well. I've even turned a couple dozen steel pins with it (now I'm hoping to avoid getting a lathe all together!).

Tait

p.s. I picked up a Glacern 5" vice - works great!
 
I'm of the opinion that a mill/drill and a separate little lathe is best. The reason being, the mill/lathe combos run the cross slide so far above the ways that flexibility is a problem. And the head of the mill ends up with a lot of distance between the cutter around to the table. It is better to have small separate units optimized for their function. Otherwise they don't have a lot going for them due to the compromises in their design.

I had the chance to use a small (9X20) jet lathe and found it to be a pleasure to use. I put several hours on one and was really impressed with it.

Personally, I disagree with the advice to get an old South Bend lathe (no offense Page, I usually agree with your observations). They weren't particularity good lathes when new, and lathes show wear worse than most machine tools. Compound that by the fact they didn't have hardened ways, and had babbit bushings for the spindle, and I haven't found old specimens to be very good. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I've used quite a few that were pretty bad.

Speaking from experience, I think a new import lathe is likely better overall. They vibrate and the dials are a joke, but when pressed they do the job with surprisingly good finish and accuracy. They're still tight and can take a heavy cut without a lot of drama.

I think a used mill should be fine. They don't wear the same as a lathe. I've installed and run a few new mills over the last couple years, and they all broke down more than most of the used machines over the same time period, I guess because the bugs needed to be worked out.

...my .02...
 
I'm of the opinion that a mill/drill and a separate little lathe is best. The reason being, the mill/lathe combos run the cross slide so far above the ways that flexibility is a problem. And the head of the mill ends up with a lot of distance between the cutter around to the table. It is better to have small separate units optimized for their function. Otherwise they don't have a lot going for them due to the compromises in their design.

I had the chance to use a small (9X20) jet lathe and found it to be a pleasure to use. I put several hours on one and was really impressed with it.

Personally, I disagree with the advice to get an old South Bend lathe (no offense Page, I usually agree with your observations). They weren't particularity good lathes when new, and lathes show wear worse than most machine tools. Compound that by the fact they didn't have hardened ways, and had babbit bushings for the spindle, and I haven't found old specimens to be very good. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I've used quite a few that were pretty bad.

Speaking from experience, I think a new import lathe is likely better overall. They vibrate and the dials are a joke, but when pressed they do the job with surprisingly good finish and accuracy. They're still tight and can take a heavy cut without a lot of drama.

I think a used mill should be fine. They don't wear the same as a lathe. I've installed and run a few new mills over the last couple years, and they all broke down more than most of the used machines over the same time period, I guess because the bugs needed to be worked out.

...my .02...

No offense taken Nathan, you know a lot more about machining than I do, my experience with the used South Bends is limited to the two I have, one of which was horribly rusted but functions well now that I cleaned it up, the other is in extremely good good shape (I got it from another BF member and he took good care of it) it just needs a new cross slide nut and some minor tuneup. All of the really heavy work I do on my 5 horse LeBlond

-Page
 
Anytime someone wants to trade their crappy southbend lathe for a sweet 9x20, give me a call..I have got the deal for you. :D
 
+1 what Nathan said. A friend has a 3 in one. The lathe has been disconnected for the majority of the time and the mill has taken 2 years to get tuned up. Get a mill and a separate lathe. Much better for the designed uses. Aldo get the largest ones that you can afford and fit in your shop.
 
Thanks for the input guys, asking questions here on what to buy and more importantly what not to buy has saved me lots of money and I appreciate you guys taking the time to answer these questions.
 
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