3 way trade, am I being a big baby?

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theobetts

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Found a knife in the trade area I wanted so contacted the trading party, we work out a deal. During communicating with him, he says that he is interested in my knife if he can find someone to trade it too. I don't give it much thought, once the trade is done he can do as he wishes. Well when I package up my knife and go to address the package, it is not his address but a third parties :mad: I go ahead with and ship, he ships mine (and has been received). My question is: is this an acceptable way to conduct trades?
 
Did you received his knife as described? Was the shipping cost the same? If answer to both is yes, then I don't see any problems.
 
Redscat said:
Did you received his knife as described? Was the shipping cost the same? If answer to both is yes, then I don't see any problems.
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I agree with this



If for some reason you dont like the terms of a sale or trade, you can always decline the offer/deal
 
To me the issue is what if the 3rd party says he didn't receive my knife, or what if he never ships his trade item to the individual with whom I worked out a trade? Also why not just be upfront about the whole situation?

The knife I received is fine, no issues there.
 
In a 3 way trade like this communication is the key to a good trade. All 3 of you should be in contact and know all the details. I did a 3 way trade with $500+ knives with 2 others. The trade went great in my case. I hope it turns out good for you guys.
 
theobetts said:
To me the issue is what if the 3rd party says he didn't receive my knife, or what if he never ships his trade item to the individual with whom I worked out a trade? Also why not just be upfront about the whole situation?

The knife I received is fine, no issues there.
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None of it is your business if you did not know about the third party. For all you're concerned, you sent out a knife and received a knife, so the trade is done. If this supposed third party contacts you, the correct response is "I'm sorry, I did not trade with you and cannot help you."
 
No and doubly so if you weren't aware of it in advance.

Too many opportunities for problems- then who's responsible?

No- No deal is complete until all parties are happy. The first guy shouldn't have traded something he didn't have in his pocession and couldn't verify the condition of.

None of it is your business if you did not know about the third party.
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I'll call B.S. on that- Then why are you shipping it to some you've not entered into a transaction with?


Good Luck but I wouldn't touch it.
 
theobetts said:
To me the issue is what if the 3rd party says he didn't receive my knife, or what if he never ships his trade item to the individual with whom I worked out a trade? Also why not just be upfront about the whole situation?

The knife I received is fine, no issues there.
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Most likely, the person you traded with was trying to save shipping cost. Now if the 3rd party didn't like the knife you "drop shipped", for whatever reason, then that's an issue between the person you traded with and the 3rd party. You received the knife as described; you shipped yours as promised; no need to be concerned or get involved any further.
 
There’s a reason why we have rules- Not necessarily because we have to follow them But because it will help alleviate any problems by identifying behavior that leads to problems.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/announcement.php?f=748&a=98

SECTION 3 - Rules for Sellers / Traders / Service Providers (hereafter referred to as "Sellers"):

1.3 Do not post items for sale or trade if you do not have them in your physical possession.
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I like the Feedback Forum because it’s reasonably easy to indentify the Members I’d like to deal. And as people comment observe how many actually have a track record and are active here. It might be wise to use that as a guide to weigh each response.
 
EMT_Lee said:
I've only done one, and Esav was one of the trading parties. Communication is key.
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That was a good deal because we all discussed it carefully beforehand, and we all knew the other two were good guys already.

Shipping to a third party can be tricky. If it were a sale involving PayPal, for instance, and the silent party got it, the other party could tell PayPal the knife he sent money to you for never arrived at his PayPal address. Obviously, that's something he couldn't pull twice, but what if it were a really expensive knife?
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. I have the knife I traded for, but have not heard if the knife I shipped was received (it should have arrived last Friday at the latest) and crappy USPS isn't showing anything on the tracking/dc #. I suppose at this point if there is an issue the silent party and the guy I traded with can work it out.

I will say that if I ever have this situation again I will back out of the deal because to me it is not a good way to conduct business.
To me being being up front and honest about the trade is the proper way to conduct yourself. Interestingly enough the trading party who blindsided me with the three way trade backed out of another trade we agreed on so he could list his items in the exchange. Needless to say, he and I will not be doing any more business.
 
The trader who involves the third party is obligated (if by no other reason than common sense) to communicate this to all persons involved. All of my forum trades have gone very well, but there was one instance where a three-way deal nearly was derailed through poor of communication. One of the other two parties gave a truncated description of my trade knife (that he had never seen, but had been described to him in detail), the other party made some assumptions and ended up with different knife than he wanted. I sent the unhappy person the full description from the very first email exchange and they ended up working it out to their satisfaction.

Two-way trades are better.

Mark
 
I would work these kinds of trades in one of two ways:

(1) All parties are in contact and comfortable with the particulars of the trade. In other words everyone is responsible to everyone.

(2) The party initiating the three way trade (e.g. I trade with someone but I want them to ship to someone else) is responsible to both parties separately. In other words, if someone doesn't get what they are promised the party initiating the three way trade is responsible to make everyone whole. For example, A trades with B and then trades the same item to C. A does not tell either B or C about this until the trade is agreed to. A is now responsible to both B and C for whatever they've been promised. B and C are still responsible for doing their part BUT the footwork on this is A's responsibility. In other words, B and C should not have to contact each other as they never agreed to a trade with one another.
 
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