$300 To $1200 For A Knife Is Now OK !

I never realized how much alot of these bags & high end womens items were,i guess theres no harm in it,but it does help justify the cost of or value of the knives we buy.
 
The problem being, if what she spends justifies what you spend, then what you spend justifies what she does. Do you believe that it is really reasonable to buy a $500 purse? Your wife can come back and say "Why not, you spent that much on a knife you barely use, this will at least get me some fem cred!" :D

What justifies buying something pricey is that you want it, and you are in a position to afford it. This is like the other justification thread, where most people are saying they don't have to justify to others what they buy. You also don't have to use what other people buy to justify your own purchases.
 
Damn- are those purses handmade by the pope or something? Expensive materials? Stitched by elves? I can see the justification for a custom knife that takes days to make because of the artwork, engineering, or blade steel that eats grinding belts for breakfast, but just offhand- what makes those purses so justifiably pricey?
 
hardheart said:
Saying that the purse is only purchased as a status symbol is a bit far, as is lumping all women into desiring social status. In either case, I commented on perception of value, not what qualities generate that value. Making you look better or making you feel good are both things we put value on.

Anyone able to do what you do, but with an Opinel, Victorinox, Buck 110, etc, would wonder what perceived value you saw in a more expensive knife, if you happen to carry more expensive ones.
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True, blanket generalizations ARE a bit far. I said many women are concerned with status, but could have made it more clear that is only one consideration for many, not all, and part of a whole nexus in the decision process. I will also say that social status is something that all humans, not just the female side, desire. That's neither here nor there though.

The reason I posted that is because the market, and the decisions that are made for a purse are completely different than most of us make for knives. The aesthetic aspect of a purse is, I hope, arguably much more important than that of a knife. Functionally, most women I've known who buy purses don't figure out how many pockets they have in them, what their EDC is, and how to arrange it. I used to work next to a shop that sold counterfeit goods- purses, sunglasses, etc. Counterfeit purses are a HUGE business. Almost all people buying them know they are counterfeit- and buy them because of the ability to project a brand, not because of a cool look, extensive functionality at a lower price point, etc.

The OP said he could get more value out of a custom knife than a woman could get out of a purse- I was pointing out that the usage, and the value of a purse; and that the formula for usage is calculated so differently than a knife that it is very hard to judge who got more value. From a purely economic point of view, affordability, they are in the same market- of high priced goods that there is plenty of alternatives for- but the elasticity calculation is much harder to make (It's difficult to find something that a $400 knife can do that a knife much cheaper cannot; but aside from counterfeit, it's hard to project the same image with a non-luxury brand bag as with a luxury brand).

Zero
 
fair enough, but I would say that aesthetics gets to be pretty important in $1200 knives as well.
 
Why the hell get married in the first place?

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hardheart said:
fair enough, but I would say that aesthetics gets to be pretty important in $1200 knives as well.
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Important, absolutely. I'd also say a $1200 knife is different than a $50 one, in that at $1200, considerations of it being primarily a tool blend with it being a piece of fashion. I'd say that the purse starts off being more of a fashion accessory regardless of price, so it still has a difference. A little subtle. Look to my response to the other quotation to go for what I'm trying to say.

BladeChemist said:
Damn- are those purses handmade by the pope or something? Expensive materials? Stitched by elves? I can see the justification for a custom knife that takes days to make because of the artwork, engineering, or blade steel that eats grinding belts for breakfast, but just offhand- what makes those purses so justifiably pricey?
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What makes a rolex so pricey? It is exclusivity, limited edition- not so much with production, though there usually is hand-stitching and stuff. There's the designer whose name the buyer knows, and they have a high fee to get their design on the bag, and licensing fees, etc. Looking to raw material cost, or even designing is not taking into account what a bag is for.

Zero
 
Most women I know have a LV, Coach, Gucci, etc... bag. I'm 100% sure that every single one of those bags, with one exception, are knock offs that cost around $40-$75. While the look of having a high end bag is there, the price isn't. Most of these women could easily afford the real thing, but there is a strange phenomenon when it comes to women, competition, and these knock off bags. These women will hunt for the best looking and least expensive knock offs just so they can try to one up eachother. Whoever can find the least expensive, but most realistic knockoff basically wins. While their friend buys a real bag for $800, these women will buy ten bags for $500 and then flaunt them like they're the real thing. Some of the knockoffs are so well done that you really can't tell unless you are looking for very small details in the craftsmanship.

So for you guys that think your woman is walking around with a $1000 bag. Find out for sure first. You don't want to come home with a $600 custom thinking that you can use her expensive bag as an argument when it only cost fifty bucks.
 
I agree. And if that $500 purse keeps her happy, then that's good enough for me. And if that $500 knife keeps me happy, then that's good enough for her (I think).

hardheart said:
The problem being, if what she spends justifies what you spend, then what you spend justifies what she does. Do you believe that it is really reasonable to buy a $500 purse? Your wife can come back and say "Why not, you spent that much on a knife you barely use, this will at least get me some fem cred!" :D

What justifies buying something pricey is that you want it, and you are in a position to afford it. This is like the other justification thread, where most people are saying they don't have to justify to others what they buy. You also don't have to use what other people buy to justify your own purchases.
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For people that live in the New Hope PA area there is a solution to the bag/knife problem. Fred Eisen Leather Designs/ Artknives will make you/ sell you or your GF/Wife a bag and sell you a custom or quality production knife in the same visit.

The leather goods are sanely priced and the custom knives are a joy to hold and fondle (and maybe buy). Fred can also sell you a damascus belt buckle and make you a custom belt as well.

New Hope is also fun to visit for brew pubs and eclectic restaurants.
 
This reminds me of a friend of mine - he's not into knives, but he does buy a gun every once in a while. One time his wife complained about how much he was spending on guns, and he told her he would only spend as much on guns as she does on purses. That shut her up in a hurry, he is far behind in that game.
 
Dagon said:
Now, women will usually buy fewer handbags than the knifehounds here buy knives.

Interesting question: would you be ok with an arrangement with wifey that allows you to buy a top quality knife when AND ONLY WHEN she buys a handbag?
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You haven't been around many of the women I know! :D
 
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