301-303-307 Owners Unite!

300 were the first knives I started collecting so here is an old picture of the 301's/ & Stockmans I picked up over the years.









 
TAH said:
So why the long pull on the Camillus and Schrade models when they could have used a regular nail nick? Was there a functional reason or just aesthetics?
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I'd still like to know the reasoning or history behind the long pull, when Schrade and Camillus could have just used a nail nick like they did on the other blades. Was it simply for convenience on the main large blade?
 
I speculate that the long pull was stamped or otherwise part of the blade blanking. This would eliminate the step, and the equipment needed to ad the nick later down the production line. Perhaps when they added machinery to add the nick on other models, it became more cost effective to use that process on all blades, this the end of the long pulls.
Purely speculation on my part...
So long as function, stability and safety are not adversely effected; the majority of business decisions like this are done for economic reasons.
 
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MT_Pokt said:
I speculate that the long pull was stamped or otherwise part of the blade blanking. This would eliminate the step, and the equipment needed to ad the nick later down the production line. Perhaps when they added machinery to add the nick on other models, it became more cost effective to use that process on all blades, this the end of the long pulls.
Purely speculation on my part...
So long as function, stability and safety are not adversely effected; the majority of business decisions like this are done for economic reasons.
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Sounds good to me. Thanks! :thumbup:
 
No great reason for long pulls, that's just the way they did them back then. Camillus used them for a dozen other models and names during the same era. Your correct, they were stamped when the blades were blanked out. Nail "nics" came later with improved methods of grinding.

Camillus made a bunch of knives, many for knives issued by other people with their name on them. Buck selected the black sawcut delrin and the slanted bolsters as options to make them their own. But you can find a few Camillus stamped slanted bolster knives that will throw you for a loop on first glance. The list of companies that contracted with Camillus would be a page long. Camillus eventually went to the nic because it was a process that was 'easier' to produce and was design wise 'current'.
When Buck took over the production of four models in the mid 80's it was nic's from then on. Even the ones they continued to have Camillus produce were almost all nics. The 307 being an exception.
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TAH said:
Having just purchased my first 301, I'd like to hear how you stockman pattern owners are using the three different blades. I know I'm looking forward to opening boxes with the sheepsfoot blade - my first sheepsfoot ever! Not sure about the spey blade yet. Don't want to miss any cutting opportunities. :D
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I frequently carry a 301 or 303.

Clip - General purpose cutting.

Sheepsfoot - opening packages an blister-packs, or for any cutting that requires starting the cut in the middle of the surface. If you need to put pressure on a knife tip for any kind of piercing cut, a sheepsfoot can't be beat. The harder you press, the more it is forced into the open position. I have a hard time giving much pocket time to a knife that does not have a sheepsfoot blade.

Spey - I normally save it for situations requiring a scalpel-sharp fresh edge. The 303 spey blade is almost a pen blade and it finds more uses.
 
Thanks Frank. I have already put the sheepsfoot blade to work. Very useful indeed! :thumbup:
 
DeSotoSky said:
I have nothing to share as far as blade use is concerned, my 301's only cut air. I will contribute another picture though. This Stockman with grooved bolsters would be the first production by Schrade c.1966/67. Pretty nice shape but does show some light use and sloppy sharpening.

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I love those early Buck 301, KEN.
 
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Usually I don't buy custom knives, but here is a 307 I picked up recently. It is a single blade from the old Buck Custom Shop with mammoth/mastodon and mirror finish.

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Bert, I am going to steal your photos. Bet the narrow design really had a different feel in the hand. I have a single blade 313 and it feels like I should carry it in my sock. 300
 
Bert, I am going to steal your photos.
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Help yourself. If I take something better, I'll send it to you. Here is a comparison shot. The bolsters really show the difference.

Bert

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Sock knife photos. I was a 321 with bird hook removed not a 313..300




Regular 321/ 321 single comparison
 
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Just got gifted this 1991 303 by a coworker. Am I correct in my understanding that this knife is made with the 425m steel that would have been used in the same time frame 110 & 112s? Any specifics about the durability and sharpen ability of this steel that is different from a traditional 420/440 steel? Should I clean up the scales and repolish the blades, or just leave it with its current patina?
 
I really wish Buck would come out with a 300 series Whittler , 1095 carbon steel blades. Main blade a wharncliff and at the other end smaller coping and pen blades. Throw in some nice scales like smooth dyed Camel bone or Buffalo. Yeah I know they would have to put a sticky, ( CARBON STEEL WILL RUST ! ) Imho, they would sell like hotcakes.
 
Here are my 303's. One of the black Delrin's blades are in pretty bad shape (long story). I also gave a black Delrin 303 to my one son and a Rosewood 303 to the other (they are twins btw) this last Christmas. I need to get pics of my 301 & 307...

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