3rd Version or not, that is the question.

Thanks g,

I think I agree with that, hadnt really noticed that particular var. I think there has got to be a rivot on the right side that I just cant see. I questioned the wife where the mag glass got to and she couldnt answer:mad:

I'm willing to call it closed but by all means if there is another opinion I'm glad to hear it.

Tele, I dont think were arguing, thats done in anger, we are spitballing about knives which is alot of fun:) Thanks for your input:thumbup:

one last Ps--another waaaaaaa hooooo-I gotta older knife than I thought:):thumbup::D
 
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Flat, it can't be a Six because if it were, the single rivet would be higher up than what Fritz shows......more centered.

Since it is not.....and indeed shows up where it would if there were two rivets, we must conclude that there is a second rivet above it that can't be seen. This is not unusual.

Joe pictured one, a single-rivet 110, in one of the links I gave Fritz yesterday and the hole is centered along the edge of the back bolster.

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Has anyone ever seen one with the single rivet down low on the back bolster like Fritz's?

I haven't.

Note: Joe's labeling of the picture is old info......before he added versions, I guess.

And, while it COULD be a Five......that would mean that there are two invisible rivets.

Not likely, but possible.

So, I gotta say that the most likely conclusion is that Fritz's 110 is a Version Three, Variation Three.

Nice knife.

:)
 
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BG42EDGE said:
Flat, it can't be a Six because if it were, the single rivet would be higher up than what Fritz shows......more centered.

Since it is not.....and indeed shows up where it would if there were two rivets, we must conclude that there is a second rivet above it that can't be seen. This is not unusual.

Joe pictured one, a single-rivet 110, in one of the links I gave Fritz yesterday and the hole is centered along the edge of the back bolster.

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Has anyone ever seen one with the single rivet down low on the back bolster like Fritz's?

I haven't.

Note: Joe's labeling of the picture is old info......before he added versions, I guess.

And, while it COULD be a Five......that would mean that there are two invisible rivets.

Not likely, but possible.

So, I gotta say that the most likely conclusion is that Fritz's 110 is a Version Three, Variation Three.

Nice knife.

:)
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Seeing that single rivet bolster, most likely conclusion is that Fritz's 110 is a Version Three, Variation Three absolutely works for me.

This pot roast is done!!!
 
God, am I glad I don't collect 110s. Fixed blades either don't have as many variations in the early ones or, at least they are not as well documented.

Flat: I do note that Joe states that the rocker rivet is "brass, stainless?" for the V5-1v.

Fortunately for me the couple that I have (well a few more) don't have but one variation.

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Telechronos:):):)
 
Very nice knives, Telechronos.

Note how that nail notch on the early one stands out.

That was what first caught my attention about Fritz's knife......it had the "Early-Looking" blade and nail notch, so I started to go WAY back in the Thirds to look for it.

I know, 110 Dave thinks I'm anal (and chides me mercilessly) for so closely scrutinizing things like the depth of nail notches and dots, etc., but 110s are so complicated that you have to consider every tiny little thing.

:)

As to the problem of not seeing that upper butt rivet.......not to worry. Joe says he has some 110s where he still hasn't found the rivet and he doesn't mind.

However, he does have a last resort method of finding those invisible butt rivets.......involving a twist with a large screwdriver (if I recall what I read correctly). Most of us refrain, however.

:D
 
Telechronos said:
God, am I glad I don't collect 110s. Fixed blades either don't have as many variations in the early ones or, at least they are not as well documented.

Flat: I do note that Joe states that the rocker rivet is "brass, stainless?" for the V5-1v.

Fortunately for me the couple that I have (well a few more) don't have but one variation.

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Telechronos:):):)
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Man those are sweet tele. Can we get a little better look at the top one?


Youre right about variations, I think I have even heard Joe say, even though his list is extensive, you never know what may have been done off the cuff at the factory that didnt ever get logged.

At least it gives us something to do at work rather than work:p
 
Plumberdv said:
:D This is a great argument for only collecting '86 or newer 110's. That way you have a much greater chance of knowing exactly what you have.:)
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Unless you collect the SPO/LE's and they use a blade from a different year than the year it's issued:p. I see that a whole lot:( Thank god I don't feel the need for one of each variation. But, as you said Dave, at least you know for sure what year the blade was made;)
jb4570
 
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jb4570 said:
Unless you collect the SPO/LE's and they use a blade from a different year than the year it's issued:p. I see that a whole lot:( Thank god I don't feel the need for one of each variation. But, as you said Dave, at least you know for sure what year the blade was made;)
jb4570
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I gave that some thought jb but after this, I think unless you are committed to going to shows to buy or trade, there is no way to do it. The differences are too subtle to get them any way but holding in your hand(with fingers crossed while holding). You'll end up with a bunch of duplicate close but not quites.
 
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I gave that some thought jb but after this, I think unless you are committed to going to shows to buy or trade, there is no way to do it. The differences are too subtle to get them any way but holding in your hand(with fingers crossed while holding). You'll end up with a bunch of duplicate close but not quites.
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You have got that right Fritz. When you are getting stuff site unseen from the web...you never know what you are going to get. But, that is some of the fun I guess. Just look at this thread, there are some very knowledgeable folks helping and it's still hard to know just what you have in hand;).

Those list's just keep changing:confused::rolleyes::o:D, I think it's to keep us confused and needing the new version that is now identified...LOL
jb4570
 
No worries on the highjack its great, the pic marked 3v/5v, did we aggree that it was marked before current info? I never thought I would want to collect the 110. My intention was to collect one of every production model (with the exceeption of the off shore stuff and some of the foofoo pink stuff) but as I look I find myself looking at and bidding/buying alot of 110's. They are sure easier to find than those damn red, sawcut 300 series.........................
 
Telechronos said:
Flat: I do note that Joe states that the rocker rivet is "brass, stainless?" for the V5-1v.
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Touche Tele. The "stainless?" was added to the current data sheet and I have the prior one commited to memory with notes. I wonder how sure Joe is about the SS since he has a question mark.

Are you still hold ing out that Fritz has a V5/1V? It's the only 2 liner in that version and the ricasso on Fritz's knife seems to be smaller than the 4V & 5V knives. :)
 
MBJ, I THINK that pic was marked before two or three variations were added.

Either that or it was just a mistake in typing that particular label. It clearly does not agree with current info.

Wish Joe could do some more pictures like that! Those are cool.
 
Flatlander1963 said:
Touche Tele. The "stainless?" was added to the current data sheet and I have the prior one commited to memory with notes. I wonder how sure Joe is about the SS since he has a question mark.

Are you still hold ing out that Fritz has a V5/1V? It's the only 2 liner in that version and the ricasso on Fritz's knife seems to be smaller than the 4V & 5V knives. :)
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Flat: If my knowledge of 110s were dynamite, I wouldn't have enought to tip my hat. You guys who specialize in 110s can pin it down with more accuracy than I can. I was only trying to get the discussion turned around to facing the fact that the rocker rivet was stainless and therefore could not be a Third version. 4V or 5V, you guys know better than I. Ask me about a barrel-nut.

Telechronos:):):)
 
Tele......you're a great guy, but you've been identifying the wrong knife for the whole discussion.

The original one from that original auction had a stainless rocker rivet.......somewhere along the journey we switched to Fritz's........and Fritz's is brass.

:)

Third V./Third V is the best guess.
 
That's quite a knife, Tele......I've never seen one of those in person.

To bad it has all those extra rivets. It's probably defective. In fact, I think I remember Joe writing something about that defective variation with all the rivets.....yeah, that's it!!!

I'd take it off your hands and pay shipping if you are getting tired of it.

:)
 
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