4 Inches an Adequate Woods Knife?

I never leave the house without a knife or two, and a multi tool. Whenever I am camping I carry a fixed blade that is closer to 5 inches and something nine or ten inches in my pack. These are in conjunction with a high quality folder with a four inch blade.
The large knife is primarily for firewood, the folder actually does most of my camp and kitchen chores, the five incher is mainly for backup if I need something a little larger. This has been my general setup for a couple years and has worked for me.
 
For most outdoors needs, a blade 4" (plus or minus an inch) is more than sufficient; however, it does depend on your personal needs. I love big blades but unless I'm looking at making improvised shelters or other tasks that are just more efficient with a large blade (or axe).

Most say a large blade can do small blade tasks...just not as well, but a small blade can't do large blade tasks. That's true to an extent, but there are several techniques where you can really work a well made smaller fixed blade to perform large-blade tasks.

My problem is that it really comes down to carry the knife comfortably. I've tried large blade knives and they just don't carry well (for me) on the belt, drop leg rig or similar variations. A baldric/shoulder carry is the most comfortable for me, but my big blades usually end up slipped into the side of the pack.

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I generaly carry a 5" bladed sheath knife with me. While 4" blades will do most anything the 5" will do it wont do some tasks as well.

If I'm going to be out and about in the woods for any period of time then I carry a large chopper for the hard jobs. Either a kukri, Bowie, my Estwing 44a.
 
My large knives usually stay in the Jeep until I need them, Just don't enjoy carring the large heavy ones.
 
A 3" to 4" works fine for me.

But then I do carry a hatchet in Fall/Winter and a folding saw in Spring/Summer.
 
Some people say for general outdoors/survival use, a 4 inch knife is all you need and anything larger is just extra weight. Does anyone think a 4 inch knife can generally do everything a larger knife could do reasonably well?


A four inch knife will CERTAINLY be sufficient for most COMMON tasks in the woods that you would normally use a KNIFE for.

A four inch knife will NOT fill in very well for a large blade (8+ inches) in my opinion. The reason there are large blades and medium sized blades and small blades and thin blades and thick blades and blades with spear points and blades with drop points (etc, etc, etc) is because they are all designed with different uses in mind. Of course, WE (the consumer) can use them for whatever we wish (with varying results), but each knife is ALWAYS designed with a fairly specific set of limits in mind. An ESEE RC-3, for instance, was not designed to fell a tree. COULD you fell a tree with one? Of course you could, given enough time and energy. But it would be FAR from being the most efficiently performed of tasks.

Often we hear people discussing their "woods trio," or the set of tools they have found to be most useful when in the woods. Most often, these include a medium sized blade, a chopper of some sort, and a small saw of one design or another. Of course, there are varying ideas on this concept, and some may not need a saw or chopper or whatever. The general idea of a "woods trio" is that by having these three tools, you'd be able to do anything you need in an EFFICIENT manner. When you're in the bush, efficiency is often a high priority as calories can be hard to come by and conserving energy can be extremely important.

Only YOU can decide which tool(s) work best for you, and the only way you're going to decide is with experience. The WS&S community can make all the suggestions we want, but those suggestions will always be biased and based upon our own experiences. Asking for advice is definitely NOT a bad thing, in fact, I think we all here encourage it. Just keep in mind that the answers you will get will almost always be greatly varied because we all have different experiences and preferences.

I included that last paragraph for this reason: I do not think it efficient to buy a tool someone else has recommended (whether it costs $8 or $900) for a task without first trying out what you have on hand for that same task. In other words, don't take OUR word for it. Go try, and ultimately, decide for yourself!! After all, being in the wild and learning is what this is all about, is it not? I enjoy the wilderness like I enjoy nothing else on earth, and the reasons are that it is always a challenge, I am constantly being confronted with new situations and opportunities, and I am constantly reviewing and revising my methods and preferences. Not to mention that almost all of the most beautiful and amazing sights I have beheld have been granted at the will of mother nature. It makes for a very dynamic, sometimes frustrating, often rewarding and an always immensely enjoyable set of activities.

Sorry to be so long... it seems that the older I get, the more long-winded I get.
 
I prefer a saw or axe coupled with my knife. Now, the knife might be a fixed blade anywhere up to five inches in length, or it may be a folder. Just depends.

Also, I'd like to point out that one guy's four inch knife isn't another guy's four inch knife. Skill and talent also play into this. So, the question becomes, Do you have enough knife for what YOU will need to do?
 
I'm also in agreement with TF and the others who have said 3-4" in plenty of blade. Anything longer and a saw or axe is better.

AJ
 
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Dude....now really...have you ever gone for a hike without a knife? (Cpl Punishment, is someone else using your login to post here??? :D)

Every once in a while I find myself without a knife, and once I'm aware of my nakedness, it feels weird. Never that I can remember has one of those times been on a hike. You may not need a knife, but when stepping off the asphalt, I always seems to have one. :thumbup:

Dude, y'all have seen what I carry.

But, there's a segment of the population that goes out on prepared trails, thinks of the outdoors as a museum -- nothing to be touched or disturbed -- they bring everything they are going to use, and even their prepackaged meals have perforations and ziplock style closures, so they don't even have to cut them open. I had a brief moment of good nature towards my fellow man, and decided to include that segment in my response. ;)

Now that the moment is over. . .

OP: you need to carry at least 4 pounds of steel, something like this:
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or you're going to die. :eek: :confused:

:p :cool:
 
"Need" is relative. People all over this planet survived for thousands of years with little more than a chipped rock and a club.

I like all sorts of cutting implements, and that's all I have to say about that. :)
 
After many years of being a chopper guy, I settled on 3-5" blades for my woods use. I have at least a dozen knives with 4" blades because that's what works for me and my area.
 
My combo is a big multitool w/saw (supertool) 3 1/4-4" folder and a small kukri or machete. Works for me; the folder does not weigh enough to matter & a 9-12" chopper balances my pistol on the other hip. Combinations are infinite as are tastes.
 
Some people say for general outdoors/survival use, a 4 inch knife is all you need and anything larger is just extra weight. Does anyone think a 4 inch knife can generally do everything a larger knife could do reasonably well?

That's similar to asking if a car will do everything a truck will do. Sure, there's a whole lot of cross-over, but they aren't the same.
 
For me, I think a 4" is just about perfect. I know a lot of guys like 6" blades or whatever, but for a general woods knife, a 4" works for me.
 
I am with everybody else around here, I carry a 3.5-4.5" knife into the woods and find that it does almost all of my knife work very well. Now I do ted to pair it up with a Hawk or a Machete when I know I am going to be doing some chopping.

With that being said I feel the need to say that I have spent countless nights out in the woods, and I must say that until very recently I have never carried a fixed bladed knife into the woods. I only carried my folder, 3-3.5" blade, and never felt lacking. Again it was paired with a hawk or machete when I was prepared. But I must say that I have started to carry a fixed bladed with me and LOVE it, and will never go out for a hike or into the woods without one.
 
Wow, glad so see the fan boys are still around.

You know, take what I say as far as you want, But I train recruits, and new SAR members on arctic survival, and I don't need anything bigger than a 4" knife. A mora is all thats needed most of the time. Anything larger still needs to go to an axe.
 
Most of my hiking trips are also combined with Knife testing--and I usually bring several Knives of different sizes to test.

(Most of them larger than 6" blades)

I use my 3-4" blades I have more often than the choppers-but there is something more enjoyable about chopping.

I do not NEED to bring the larger knives--but the joy I get out of using them offsets the weight of carrying them.
 
Wow, glad so see the fan boys are still around.

You know, take what I say as far as you want, But I train recruits, and new SAR members on arctic survival, and I don't need anything bigger than a 4" knife. A mora is all thats needed most of the time. Anything larger still needs to go to an axe.
I couldn't agree more. However, I will add that in many environments, a machete is more desirable than an axe. Certainly not in an arctic one, though! :p
 
Personally, I find a 3" blade on its own often wanting in terms of length. Usually, that is for batoning and prepping a hearth for bowdril. A four inch works great. I think, however, that 5" is the sweet spot. A long while back, when Bryan Breeden just started coming around these parts and introducing his pathfinder model he made the statement about 5" blades. "You can reach to the bottom of a peanut butter jar with a 5" blade, a 4 incher will get your knuckles full of peanut butter touching the rim". Genius! Yes, that is very, berry true!

Actually, contemplating this week, I think my Breeden Pathfinder, with its 5" but slender blade and 1/8" thickness is the most versatile knife in my collection. Big enough to do big boy things and small enough to be less noticable. Shucks, I can live with 4", but the simple facts are, if you measure a 5" blade and then you measure a 4" blade and you take the difference between the two, you have 1" remainder ;) Well them is the facts!
 
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