409 stone and steel

CWendling

CWendling

Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider
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Went to reorder and found out that it is discontinued. Has anyone tried any other similar products that work as well or is it back to windex/simple green? I saw some Weiman granite cleaner/polish and some simple green SS cleaner on amazon
 
Looks like it isn’t quite discontinued, but they’ve decided to prioritize other products during the pandemic. I see that hasn’t stopped budding capitalists from trying to get $50 per bottle on fleabay, haha.

As for alternatives, I’m not sure. Curious to hear what others think.
 
What do you want to do with it?>
If it is for neutralizing FC after an etch, any cleaner with ammonia will work. You can mix your own with dish soap and ammonia.
If using for a lubricant while sanding or with waterstones, any good detergent will work. Dawn is what I use, simple green, Joy, etc. About a Tsp. to a Tbs. per gallon is all you need.
 
A lot of us use it for keeping the paper clean while hand sanding. True, most detergents, windex, simple green, etc... do a perfectly fine job. The 409 does seem to work a little better than average though.
Not enough to go from $4 a bottle to $50+ though. :D
 
Drew Riley said:
A lot of us use it for keeping the paper clean while hand sanding. True, most detergents, windex, simple green, etc... do a perfectly fine job. The 409 does seem to work a little better than average though.
Not enough to go from $4 a bottle to $50+ though. :D
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Yep, someone turned me onto it a couple years ago. Not sure why, but it does seem to work better than windex or simple green like you said. I may try the simple green steel polish or weiman stone polish. See how they work
 
This is what I've been using. I couldn't find the 409 stuff either so not sure how it would compare but I'd be interested to know.
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I constantly switch between very dilute simple green, diluted Windex, and wd40. Really can't tell much difference in any of them. Wd40 will stain hands more though.
 
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