4140 and 4142 steel

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What application are these steels used for and is it suitable for knives?
Scott
 
I'm not sure of their intended use, but the carbon content is low for knife use, though you might be able to make a decient tomahawk out of it. It'd be ideal for hammer heads.
 
I asked Fitzo last night about 4140 and he said, "4140 will harden, but not to the levels desirable for a knife blade. Makes good hammers , hawks, and forge tools!"
 
These alloys are very good for many things . This is the 'chrome moly' steel that guns are made from, the 'aircraft tubing' ,the 'high stregth bolts' etc . But they don't have the carbon content necessary to maintain an edge well. Hammers , 'hawks, forging tools ? yes !
 
Mete beat me to it again :D
41XX is chrome moly steel. Its used for a lot of things, from gun parts to axles to engines. I guess its pretty stable in heat treating and hardens deeply. The last two numbers designate the carbon content though, so you're looking at .40 -.42 % carbon content. I think you really need to be above .50% to have a decent blade.
 
I make pry bars with it. It can also be used for swords. As stated things that you want a high toughness with edge holding being secondary. If anyone want some shorts of 7/8" hex 4140 contact me.

Wayne
 
Thanks everyone. Just curious. I'm already invovled with plenty of steels as it is.:D
Scott
 
Sure am glad to see this topic. I've got about 20 ft. of the stuff that was formerly a windmill drive shaft (1" round). Been wondering what to do with it.
 
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