420hc is barely a steel

Iron, being a pure element which is fairly reactive with other elements like Oxygen is actually very rare to find in its pure form.
 
From what I understand and have researched 420hc and 8cr13mov are comparable almost like 420hc is the US version.

Correct me if I'm wrong
 
Knicked Digits said:
From what I understand and have researched 420hc and 8cr13mov are comparable almost like 420hc is the US version.

Correct me if I'm wrong
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Nah, they are different the Chinese equivalent to 420HC is 4cr14mov

the 8cr13mov has twice the carbon and is closer to 440b and AUS 8
 
CrazyCaucasian said:
What would happen if I took ONE of the elements out? What if the vanadium were removed entirely. Would it still be 420hc or does that alter it entirely? What if the carbon were replaced with nitrogen? Would that work? Where can I find answers to these odd questions in books or even online? Maybe I'll have to learn it on my own and UNDERSTAND IT first an make my own assessment. The latter would be nice. But where do I even begin? I know bladeforums is a treasure but I'd rather find it all from one reliable source for the convenience of it. Ya know? I'd learn it much faster flipping pages or something like that. I yearn for a deep understanding of everything that makes up steels. What's the word? The elements? Chromium and nickel, etc
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This isn't a simple question to answer. To reply, I'd ask you what would happen if you didn't add salt to bread? What if you didn't add baking powder to a cake? Analogies can offer a little insight at times. To truly understand these processes, you'll need to read metallurgy books. The problem is that specialized knowledge is not easy to acquire. Few people want to reach a high level understanding in a subject because it's incredibly difficult to acquire the knowledge. Understanding these subjects is going to require many hours of study.
 
It depends alot on the HT. Buck knows how to treat it.
Also remember if you design it in a powerful shape like a tanto you can get more from it.
 
Knife steel debate is kind of like arguing some difficult music genre debate: you can show me stats and tests but in the end, nobody cares. If something works for you it works for you and if something doesn't it doesn't.
 
LG&M said:
It depends alot on the HT. Buck knows how to treat it.
Also remember if you design it in a powerful shape like a tanto you can get more from it.
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Finally!!! Someone with common sense!!
I thank you.
 
A.L. said:
Knife steel debate is kind of like arguing some difficult music genre debate: you can show me stats and tests but in the end, nobody cares. If something works for you it works for you and if something doesn't it doesn't.
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All steels work, but some work better than others. :)
 
id argue that its a pretty good knife steel. doesnt do anything super well, but does all enough. ive used it in bucks and american made gerbers for a long time now and i consider it one of my favorite user stainless steels. tough enough, holds an edge well enough, very stain and corrosion resistant, and very easy to get sharp quickly.
 
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