420j2 is it worthless

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is 420j2 really that bad....has anyone had any good experiences with it. thank you for your answer......................p
 
i dont plan on anything harsh like chopping etc basicallt a self defense knife it feels really good in your hand.....p
 
People have used far softer and weaker materials to kill each other for long periods in history. It is a fairly soft stainless so isn't like to break in half under impacts, compared to stainless steels in general anyway.

It doesn't take much abrasive cutting to dull the edge though so watch that, as well there can be problems with handle/tang and guard construction on the low end knives so take care there.

If it is a folding knife the locks can also be problematic as well.

Who ever you are studing knife fighting with would probably be the one to ask on what you should carry as it is probably fairly dependent on style.

-Cliff
 
http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/timberline/
Paul, I'm going to recommend that you look at the timberline Worden tactical. They have a similar shape, feel really good in the hand, can be had pretty cheap, and have better steel. Just a though.
IMO, Timberline knives are very unrated overall. I have the pistolgrip, and it's really a pretty nice package.
 
Gentlemen, since this was posted by a reletively new member, why not tell him what your qualifications are?
Climp Stamp... Hard core tester and destroyer of many knives.
Ed Schemp... Knifemaker extraordinare'
Chuck Bybee... Supplier of knife stuff.
Sorry if my answers are at all inaccurate, but I'm just me.
 
paulwesley said:
420j2 is it worthless
in a knife blade, pretty much yeah.
there's really no way around it, if you want to cut something, there are a lot more of better choices than there are worse. It's usually the worst steel offered by knife factories, and by the specs (or performance) not even a real cutlery grade steel.

Of course you can kill with it, but you can kill with a wooden stick or with your hands too. To me that's just not a point at all.

If your looking to buy a CRKT Crawford/Kasper, look for a piece from the older production runs. You should still be able to find one in AUS-6M, not a great steel but a lot better that the non high carbon 420J2.
 
Walking Man said:
why not tell him what your qualifications are?
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Because you should not listen to something because someone in particular says it but by the strength of the statement independent of its advocate, look for facts and reason.

-Cliff
 
thanks yall..i guess it will be ok if i'm not too hard on it..you know its not like its the end of the doggone world
 
so its an ok steel if i just keep it sharpened all the time which is no big deal right................p
 
Paul,
many of your questions have been discussed before at great length. Try the search function, it's a great tool that will give you more information on almost any subject than posting a thread.
 
Or just spend time reading old threads to get a feel for the kind of discussions we've had, as well as absorbing some of the information available.

There's nothing wrong with bringing up an old subject for new information, but try reading old threads on steels and their characteristics, for example.

Here's a good source to organize your knowledge -- http://www.agrussell.com/knife_information/knife_encyclopedia/articles/steel.html
 
Look up at the top of the page and find the bar with these headings:

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Click on Search. Click on search function in Quiet Storm's post to learn how to use it.
 
I think where it works well is in a laminate blade. I have a Kershaw Nakamura which is a VG10 blade clad in 420J2.
 
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