420m??

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While navigating the bay, I ran across this offering. It appears to be a standard 110 blade that has the partial chipped flint treatment. One strange thing is that it shows two different COA's for the same knife, but the really interesting thing to me is the "420M" steel that both COA's mention. I'd be surprised if Leroy made a mistake, but I've never seen or heard of that steel being used on a Buck. Have I missed something?

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He probably just had a senior moment and combined 420HC and 425M.

:)

He also says "full chip flint" and "partial chip flint."

Question.....if it's stamped the way he says......wouldn't it be 440C???
 
Its gotta 2010 date stamp from what I can see by the pic so it should be 420hc
 
I see PD added another picture showing the stamp.

Ok, the seller just neglected to show the date symbol in the COA then. Errors with steel and confusing wording with partial and full chipflint.

Well, I'd say he was just a little careless in typing and proofreading. The guys who are so skilled in hammering and grinding on knives are often not so good at the details of writing them up.

I've seen many mistakes in COAs from knife manglers.
 
Its pretty straight forward,it says blade has partial chipflint,knife has full chipflint,meaning the bolsters are full chipflint.Thats how i read it anyway.
 
Its pretty straight forward,it says blade has partial chipflint,knife has full chipflint,meaning the bolsters are full chipflint.Thats how i read it anyway.

Same here, I figured that out earlly on. The blade steel is what puzzles me.
 
I am sure that BG is talking about "The Blades is 420 M .....". I believe there is only one Blade not Blades.
 
Yes, he obviously had a typo on "Blades" and probably meant to say that the bolsters were full chipflint instead of knife is full chipflint.

The failure to add the year symbol is not a big deal, really.....although stating that the stamp is "Buck 110 U.S.A" might mislead someone into thinking they were buying a MUCH older knife with 440C steel.

People really need to proofread important stuff carefully or have someone else proof it for them.
 
Thats the 'normal' designation for that steel. Whereas, 420HC is a special request steel mfg. for Buck. A very handsome knife and good photo. DM
 
No, 420HC is 420HC.

And it's not a special request steel--it's an "Off The Shelf" steel--that's why Buck switched from 425M to 420HC. Off the shelf was cheaper than the special order 425M.
 
The seller of the knife has told me that he's sure the date stamp on the knife is 2011. He's not home right now, but will confirm that later today.

I've sent an e-mail to Leroy to see if he will clear this up.
 
That looks like the 2011 stamp to me, which is the "C" with a dot inside.
...which would mean that, unless it's from the Custom Shop, the blade is 420HC, not 425M. Read the knife, not the papers.
 
Good eye Kev, I couldn't quite make it out, but the seller confirmed it as a 2010. No word from Leroy yet.

That looks like the 2011 stamp to me, which is the "C" with a dot inside.
...which would mean that, unless it's from the Custom Shop, the blade is 420HC, not 425M. Read the knife, not the papers.

A quote from the seller:

"Dear plumberdv,
Thank You for your patience. The year mark is an arrow pointed toward the 110 (for 2010) stamped on the blade tang.
Joel"


Read the post (#14), not the fuzzy photo. ;) You can get 425M from the Custom Shop? :confused:
 
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Puuk obviously meant 420M like it mistakenly says on the COA.

Makes no difference whether it's 2010 or 2011--it's still going to be 420HC.

If it were (as the COA claims) stamped Buck 110 U.S.A., then it would be 440C.

As I said before, it's just sloppy writing and sloppy proofreading.
 
I'm also convinced that it's a typo now that the date stamp has been verified. I was not going to be convinced if it had been a three line stamp unless a typo was verified by Leroy. Leroy, being an insider and long time member of Buck's company could have access to blades made of steel that the general public or collectors would never know about.

My responce to Pukkoman was to point out that the date stamp had already been verified in an earlier post and "read the knife" was exactly what we had been trying to do.
 
Well, it was gonna be 420HC no matter if it was 2010 or 2011, so I never regarded that as a relevant question anyway.

It clearly had some kind of date mark that was in the 420HC range and not 440C.
 
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