422 Bucklite info?

Thanks David. Is blade movement, when closed, common on this model?
 
TAH,

I think you're on the right track. You'll recall that in your fun survival thread, I picked the large Bucklite Max. Today, I would probably pick the large Bantam. Both are similar in spirit to your Bucklite.

Wowza!! Nice Terraplane!! My buddy's finally gave up the ghost just a few years back. His padding all dried up and flaked out. My similarly aged TNF (modified with Dana hip pads) is also on its last legs and I'm moving to an external as too many disc have too little fluid in them.

Anyway, I find a folder the size and weight of your Bucklite to be ideal for backpacking. I pair mine with a PS4 for on the trail equipment repairs. Great combo.

Regarding blade wobble when closed, I find some lock backs do and some don't and there's usually no relation to stability when locked up. I *HATE* blade play but wobble when closed doesn't bother me in the least.
 
Thanks Pinnah. I thought perhaps the Bucklite was more vulnerable to blade wobble (when closed) due to its Valox handle.

As for the Terraplane, I've owned it since 1990. It's heavy by today's standards, but I wouldn't think of replacing it. It stabilizes heavy loads with ease. I love it. We're old buddies.

I know exactly what you're talking about regarding the back pad drying up and flaking out. It finally happened to me and my friend's Terraplane last year! Easy fix though, I simply called Dana Gleason's new backpack company, Mystery Ranch, and they sent me two new back pads for free! We installed them ourselves. Mystery Ranch still has old Dana Design parts, even though they sold to Marmot years ago. Here is my contact:

Jeff Lefebvre, Repair Department
Mystery Ranch
1750 Evergreen Drive
Bozeman, MT 59715
406-585-1428
jeff@mysteryranch.com
www.mysteryranch.com

Good luck!

Tom
 
I think you're right to be concerned about plastic handled lockbacks. I croaked a couple of Bucklite Max cutting hard with them and Buck conceded that the designs with (heavy) metal bolsters are more durable.

This said, even all metal lock backs can develop play is the pins, bar and blade wear or deform. And with all light gear, one generally needs to accept a trade off between weight and durability.

Use and love the knife by embracing and accepting the trade off
 
Recently I compared two knives I own, a Buck Crosslock to a Bucklite 112 (422) for use as a backbackers knife. After some good discussion and valid points here on this sub-forum I went with the Bucklite. It is lightweight and mine locks like a vault - I'm sure it would loosen up if subjected to heavy duty work, but for day hiking that is not my intent. I realize things could go bad on you quickly (I can still picture myself, like SGT Snorkle, hanging by my Bucklite off the side of a cliff) - but then I'd need a mechanized infantry company with me to cover every imaginable threat! As it is, the Bucklite seems a very good compromise. Here it is pictured on the AT near Harrisonburg VA last month where I was dayhiking. OH

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pinnah said:
I think you're right to be concerned about plastic handled lockbacks. I croaked a couple of Bucklite Max cutting hard with them and Buck conceded that the designs with (heavy) metal bolsters are more durable.

This said, even all metal lock backs can develop play is the pins, bar and blade wear or deform. And with all light gear, one generally needs to accept a trade off between weight and durability.

Use and love the knife by embracing and accepting the trade off
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Actually, I'm not that concerned at all when considering how I use a knife. I also carry a Sawvivor collapsible saw for cutting firewood, so my knife is never subjected to harsh use.

Old Hunter said:
and mine locks like a vault...
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Yep, same here
 
TAH said:
Thanks everyone! David, when was Edge 2000 introduced? Also, has anyone had any problems with Valox coming in contact with Deet?
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I have not had any experience with Valox and DEET, but Valox, especially the non-glass type, is flammable. So, keep it clear of fire. I had wondered before if Valox was stable when in contact with other chemicals. I know it is not as good as G10, but is lighter. I would never, ever, let it come in contact with a plastic worm. Those worms will melt a lot of plastic types.
 
I never leave my knife in The Tackle Box...
I carry mine in my little sheath that came with it...
Soft Plastics always seems to melt on hard plastic... That happened to my sons Star Wars toys... That's another story... I've used my bucklite 422 for fishing hunting and camping for years... now if I was going back in the woods for miles I would still take my bucklite with me Plus a106... But I never plan on going anywhere off Trail... Best thing to do is use what's good for you...Don't abuse your knife or knives and you'll be fine...

:)
 
TAH said:
Thanks David. Is blade movement, when closed, common on this model?
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I don't know. I think some have obsessive compulsive disorders over blade wobbling.
Mine wobbles when opened and closed. And this doesn't bother me.
Looking at what I've done with it, I'm not surprised. If that is going to bother you then get one with metal bolsters on the pivot end. Which is a good compromise. Like this one. Or just get a fixed blade. They can be found light. DM
 
This morning while thinking on the ' blade wobble' concerns in this topic... I checked my above 110 drop point folder with paper stone, the Collectors Club offering in 2010. That model I've used a good bit and it has zero wobble, while closed or open. DM
 
My 70s 110 and 112 have zero blade wobble when closed. That is why I was wondering if Bucklites are more prone to wobble (when closed) due to their Valox construction.
 
I was thinking on your topic and trying to engage more discussion. For me, considering a backpacking knife I would want one to offer strength and reliable duty. Especially if it were my only one. Then I would fudge on the weight toward the lighter side. DM
 
I agree, David. The knife selected really depends on where you're backpacking. My trips are on well known, established trails, so I'm more concerned about weight than strength. A lot of hard core, ultralight backpackers would cringe at the thought of carrying a 2.5 oz knife when a 1 oz SAK Classic is all they need.
 
My '92 - 422 has some blade wobble when closed too, but it's pretty solid when open. It got me thinking about TAH's issue and I decided to wrap the pivot end with leather and squeeze it in a vise until all the wobble was gone. While still clamped tight, the blade still opened without much resistance. I've peened the pivot pins on a couple newer 442s and it removed all side to side blade play. Some careful peening would surely reduce or maybe even eliminate the wobble.
 
A 1 oz. SAK can't offer much blade.
Plb, yes and when I'm peening the pivot pin I hope I don't crack the Valox. O-well, if I do I'll just make some new handles out of micarta. DM
 
TAH said:
It doesn't, but most backpackers only use a knife for opening freeze-dried food packages, cutting cord and moleskin.
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I went Colin Fletcher on a SAK Classic, broke off the file and removed the scales (which were cracked anyway), losing the tweezers and toothpick!

Zieg
 
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