$450 1911

I even had Glocks that failed (2 G36's)

..but I never had a S&W revolver fail


and even if you get a misfire on a revolver. All you have to do is pull the trigger again.

With all that said, I carry a 1911.
 
colubrid said:
I even had Glocks that failed (2 G36's)

..but I never had a S&W revolver fail


and even if you get a misfire on a revolver. All you have to do is pull the trigger again.

With all that said, I carry a 1911.
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It's funny you mention that. The only trouble I've ever had from any firearm came from Glocks, a 36 & 27. The only Glocks I'll own now are the 9mm models. I'm sure the others are fine but those 2 left a bad impression.
 
If someone gave me a Glock or a Kimber, I'd sell it, use the money to buy a yellow dog and shoot the dog.

And I like dogs.
 
Jammer Six said:
If someone gave me a Glock or a Kimber, I'd sell it, use the money to buy a yellow dog and shoot the dog.

And I like dogs.
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Why? I've had plenty of Glocks that were fine, albeit only 9mm. My wife has 4 and none of them have given her any trouble after a couple thousand rounds each. As far as Kimber goes, I've only had experience with this one and so far it's been flawless. I'm kinda indifferent to it so far but I can't knock its reliability any.
 
Anyone who says that a full size 1911 kicks too hard needs to stick to BB guns. :p My dad scored one of the Custom Shop Officers model sized Kimbers a few years back for like $700, which was the normal retail price for one of the plain jane guns at that time. I have seen some comments bout the shorty gun having feed issues, but his has functioned flawlessly. My favorite non-1911 .45 is the Sig 220, but it has the same capacity "problem."
 
Small 1911's don't have "feeding" issues. They have smaller slides that recoil a shorter distance with less mass. The ammo and the energy stays the same, while the envelope where the weapon will function correctly is shorter at both ends. The net result is a weapon that will malfunction sooner, and is more sensitive to dirt and perfect tuning.

This shows itself as different types of jams.

The magic of a 1911 as a carry weapon is in it's thickness, not it's height or width, and officer size 1911s do nothing to address that, they are the same thickness. So an officer size 1911 is simply a weapon that does not offer significant advantages at the cost of jamming sooner under more conditions. Some folks identify these jams as feeding problem, failures to feed, failures to extract, when what they are is a weapon with a smaller operational envelope that has been pushed beyond what it can do reliably.

They are, as a result of their smaller envelope, simply not as reliable as a government sized 1911. They can't be, without the mass and recoil distance.
 
Jammer Six said:
They are, as a result of their smaller envelope, simply not as reliable as a government sized 1911. They can't be, without the mass and recoil distance.
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I'm no gunsmith or expert, I just enjoy buying and shooting them, but wouldn't a stronger recoil spring fix that problem? Theoretically it would slow down the slide cycling and prevent problems.
 
No. There is no free lunch in physics.

A smaller mass moving a shorter distance is a smaller mass moving a shorter distance. The best (meaning most rationale) solution would be to change the energy available, and match it to the new paradigm. That means changing the ammo. That solution is only available to reloaders, and means that the main reason .45 ACPs exist, terminal ballistics, would change.
 
Sweet grab! Love the rugged, classic lines of a nice 1911. I'm a 9mm guy, but the 45ACP and 1911 have such a rich history how can you not love em.
 
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