5" Folder

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Is there a quality, manufactured, single-edged 5" folder out there in existance somewhere? Actually the blade could be anywhere from 4.5"-5". First place I looked was Benchmadebut they don't sell anything that fits that bill. :grumpy:
 
The closest to 5" I can think of off hand is probably the Lone Wolf Harsey Tactical, at 4.75" IIRC. It's a big knife, about $225 IIRC, very good production quality.

The Cold Steel Vaquero Grande has a 6" blade, but it's a dramatic recurve and not really a general purpose folder.

Other than that, Strider Knives makes some huge folders, the blades on the AR , SMF and GB are less than 5" but thick and deep, making for a very, very large -and solidly built -folding knife. About $400 new, nearly indestructible, semi-custom.

Lots of good fixed blades in that blade length also, just a thought.
 
Benchmade makes the 630 Skirmish, which has a 4.3" blade...bigass knife, not just in length. Biggest folder BM makes.

Check out the Camillus CUDA MAXX 5.5 line. D2 blade, titanium frame lock handles, 5.5" blades. You can get the bowie bladed one for about $130. There's the Aftermath, but it's 3 times the price. All are designed by Darrel Ralph. If you get an actual DR, you're lookin' at several hundered dollars.

Once you get above $300 you can start looking at custom makers. For $450 or so, you can get pretty much anything you want in a big knife from makers like RJ Martin or Rick Hinderer.
 
I believe Dalton makes some pretty large folders, a couple in the 4" - 5" range. If an auto would be acceptable you might want to check them out.

Those Camillus CUDA MAXX's look really nice too. I think I might need to get one of them for myself.
 
Cuda Aftermath 5.5"
Cold Steel Gunsite folders 5"
(or just the extra large
Voyagers)
also cs xxl folders at 6". too big for me! :eek:
 
Harsey Ranger by Lone Wolf. Almost 5" Titanium liners. S30V drop-point blade.

Shop around. I did a Google search and prices varied tremendously - from almost $300 to under $200.00.

Good hunting.

Tom
 
Planterz said:
Benchmade makes the 630 Skirmish, which has a 4.3" blade...bigass knife, not just in length. Biggest folder BM makes.
And it's a beautiful knife. If only it were single-edged I would own one already. Unfortunatly double-edged knives are illegal for carry where I live. :mad:
 
The 630 is a double-edge? :confused: It has a swedge, but I wasn't aware it was sharpened.
 
I have a Camillus Cuda Maxx and a Cold Steel XL Voyager. Both are great knives, and I would recommend either.
 
I have a 630, and it is single edged. Large folder, nice recurve. I would certainly recommend it.
 
ErikD said:
I believe Dalton makes some pretty large folders, a couple in the 4" - 5" range. If an auto would be acceptable you might want to check them out.

Those Camillus CUDA MAXX's look really nice too. I think I might need to get one of them for myself.

The Daltons just announced a manual folder which will be coming out this week, it is called an LTC1.. 4" blade.
 
Steven Roos said:
The 630 is single edged.
Unfortunately, based on the laws of the state of Texas (where I live) I think that is considered a double-edged knife and is therefore illegal to carry. :grumpy: Trust me, I would LOVE to be proved wrong on this one so if you can prove me wrong, please do! :D
 
46.01.

(6) "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half
inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab
another by being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk,
stilletto, and poniard;
(D) bowie knife;
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.
(7) "Knife" means any bladed hand instrument that is
capable of inflicting serious bodily injury or death by cutting or
stabbing a person with the instrument.
A "dagger" would be a double-edged knife, which is what I assume you're concerned with. A swedge is not an edge. It cannot cut. I'm certain that BM 630 is perfectly fine to carry in Texas.
 
Brian6244 said:
Unfortunately, based on the laws of the state of Texas (where I live) I think that is considered a double-edged knife and is therefore illegal to carry. :grumpy: Trust me, I would LOVE to be proved wrong on this one so if you can prove me wrong, please do! :D
http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/tx.txt

I don't see any reason why a knife with a swedge would be illegal.
 
Planterz said:
A "dagger" would be a double-edged knife, which is what I assume you're concerned with..
Yes that is my concern.
Planterz said:
A swedge is not an edge. It cannot cut.
That is really the information I am looking for. Could a judge rule that a swedge is the same as an edge? What is the functional purpose of the "swedge" back design?
 
Unfortunatly this is all probably moot since although it is a beautiful knife, suits my wants/needs perfectly, and is apparently most likely legal to carry in TX, these little beauties are completely impossible to find! :grumpy:
 
The purpose of a swedge is to reduce cutting or piercing resistance while maintaing tip strength.

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If you look at the blade, you'll see that where the main bevel starts, you have the "flats" of the blade (where the holes are). Above the flats is the swedge. If the area where the swedge is wasn't beveled off, you'd have a wide portion of flat. When slicing, excess flat area can cause resistance. Most of the time you'll see swedges only at the tip. Notice that for the first inch or so, there are no flats. This makes the tip of the knife much more useful for fine, detailed work, and for quick, easy cuts (like box tape). If the tip had the full thickness of the blade, it wouldn't be as handy for such work.

Another way to accomplish this (a thinner tip for detailed work) is a grind like the Sebenza uses. However, the tip won't be as strong as a swedged, full (or nearly full) thickness tip. I'd be more comfortable stabbing something with a 630 than a Sebenza, but the Sebenza is probably a better slicer (just guessing though, I own neither). Of course, there's a nearly infinite variety if "in between" ways to do make a knife better at one thing, usually at the sacrifice of another. The object being finding the one that suits your needs the best.

As for the "edge vs swedge"...no I don't think a judge would be able to argue that the swedge counts as an edge, mostly because it can't cut anything. The swedge serves as an aid in the cutting action of the actual edge...as does just about everything in the blade's design. Best of luck finding one.
 
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