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Well at the end of the day I went with the Cryo and the Chill by Kershaw thanks for the help guys I also through in some tuf-glide :)
 
Honestly, I hated the thumb hole at first until I got the Manix2 and now I'm in love I use my middle finger to open it instead of my thumb though

How the heck do you do that? I'm trying with my Manix2 and the only way I can get enough extension with my middle finger is to hold it reversed.
 
How the heck do you do that? I'm trying with my Manix2 and the only way I can get enough extension with my middle finger is to hold it reversed.

I hold my ring finger and pinkie extended and put my middle finger nail in the hole slightly while squeezing tightly with my thumb. If I dont put it in my palm and squeeze with my thumb I will either dropbmy knife or not open it hope this helps! :)
 
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