50 years ago today I left Cherokee, KS for Great Lakes Naval Training Center

Good answer, N2S.

There is a memorial to Korean veterans on the National Mall, too. It was completed maybe 5 years back. Basically, it's a group of life-sized statues in bronze - a squad on patrol.

It doesn't have the quiet power of the Wall. Still, it's my favorite memorial, although it can be kind of eery if you walk down there on a foggy morning.

S.
 
Yea I agree that the memorial to the Korean War looks strange on foggy days. And I hope that people today can still do what Bill and many others did when their country called for their service. People like Hanoi Jane and Bubba Willie C. on the other hand.....:barf:
 
riverlet's of rememberance and sorrow..joy of life and memories.. thanks Tio Bill
 
My regret about the Korean War is we didn't finish the job. I believe if we had there would have never been a Viet Nam war.

Doug MacArthur lamented, "This is the first time in the history of the world a war was fought not to be won."

And I think that was a mistake.
 
Has anyone here read "The Marines of Autumn," by James Brady? It's an outstanding novel about the Chosin Reservoir campaign. If you get the chance, give it a read.

Warning: You'll probably blubber your eyes out before you get through it.
 
Originally posted by raghorn
Has anyone here read "The Marines of Autumn," by James Brady? It's an outstanding novel about the Chosin Reservoir campaign. If you get the chance, give it a read.

Warning: You'll probably blubber your eyes out before you get through it.

Rag

Try reading "93 Confirmed Kills". It is about a Marine sniper named Carlos Hathcock. Its all true and documented. The VC called him White Feather and had a bounty on his head. The man is a legend in the Marine Corps. Very good read.
 
I've read several of his interviews, but never got to the book. I'll look for it.
 
That was a fantastic post Uncle Bill. Thanks for doing what you did.
I myself served in the Navy for 13 years and currently work for the govenment in a civil sevice position. I appreciate all veterans and their familys, because without the support of their familys they coudln't do what they do. I just hope that don't get the same treatment I got in Calofornia during Desert Storm, eggs thrown and me and called a murderer and i didn't even leave the country. My hope and prayers are with our servicemembers in Afghanistan and Iraq. Get home soon and God speed.
 
I hope the food in Great Lakes was better back then than it is now. Last time I was there (back in '01 for 'A' School) it wasn't all that. I tend to judge locales by the quality of the chow. ;)

There are some things I don't enjoy about military service. One of the things I do enjoy - and enjoy very much - is the sense of connection I experience at some postings. I did not like Great Lakes as it was, but when I thought back to what it used to be, I liked it much more. Walking down the strip through the main gate, past the older stone buildings with their archaic construction (many of them underutilized or not even used at all), I couldn't help but wonder what they'd originally been used for, who had passed through there, what they'd been thinking. I would sometimes stand near the parade grounds on the NTC side and just look at them, imagining all the sailors who'd passed in review there. At other times, I'd sit down on the shore and stare across the water and contemplate the crumbling breakwaters and decaying ruins there.

Today, at the Camp, I always feel a small sense of wonder inside the various buildings and speculate about what some of them may have been used for, who had passed through, what they'd accomplished while they were there, what their lives had been like. I remember unearthing rusted Garand clips on the long-abandoned and overgrown 850-yard firing line, staring at them, and thinking to myself: "How well had this man shot this day? What was on his mind? Where had he been to before he'd been to the Camp, and where did he go afterwards? I'd love to ask him, but chances are that he's already gone. I feel as if I've lost something." The Camp has many secrets and most of them will never be unearthed. We're due to decomm soon and it hurts me that so many stories will be gone forever.

Not all of my colleagues see it this way. I'm pretty sure most of them don't even know what I'm talking about. I feel it just the same.

I enlisted back in '96 with no expectations of trouble - I didn't sign up seeking conflict. I re-enlisted in '02 because I wasn't quite ready to leave, but I'd say that I was needed if I were asked. In neither case were my motivations particularly patriotic. My viewpoint has changed a bit since then but human nature will be what it will be. It wasn't until fairly recently that I got a sense of being a part of something that had been around far before I was, and would be around long after I'm gone.

To sign up with the expectation of trouble - with other prospects available - simply because it is the morally correct choice, is a choice that I'm not sure that I could make correctly. You have my utmost respect, Uncle Bill, and you also have my gratitude. Fair winds and following seas.
 
My induction date was over 38 years ago and all of a sudden I feel very old. If anyone told me, before hand, about the profound impact that my service in the Army would have on my life I would have laughed in their face. You are never the same.
 
Johnny - Welcome Home Brother...

Bill - Welcome Home and thanks for your service. Don't feel bad about Korea...I can assure you that we never thought or said "Damn...if only those Korean vets had done something else we wouldn't have to be doing this." Each generation has to deal with it's own karma...
 
bobrap said:
Yea, but don't the Korean vets tend to be the forgotten ones? Very little is spoken of those who served and made the ultimate sacrifice. I'm not sure if there is a memorial built for Korean War vets:confused:


There is a Korean War Memorial down in DC now. It is small, but powerful.

Personally, I've never been in war or the military. But I grew up in a military household and learned pretty quickly to value those who have.

Thanks very much Uncle Bill, for your actions back then, as well as now. And thanks to all the other veterans and service people out there, doing some of the hardest jobs around.
 
Thirty years ago I left Cherokee, KS and headed West. Didn't have a backpack so I took a couple of plastic wastebaskets, attached straps and made "pack baskets" for me and my wife. I learned about pack baskets from Straight Arrow cards in Shredded Wheat boxes when I was a kid.

Bill said, "That's crazy as Hell, but it will probably be a good trip".
I replied, "Yup".
My wife said, "What"?

It was a good trip.
 
Bill Martino said:
Those who lived thru WWII are different.
Heard of Tom Brokaw's new book, Bill?

The Greatest Generation
 
My Dad was over in Korea for a couple of years. Best part he said was when he got out and lived in Tokyo for a year or so. Said he lived like a king there for very little money at the time.

He was in a place called Sachari (my pronunciation based on a 30 year old conversation), and he said the cold was what got him. I have a pic of him somewhere standing in a vast ice field, and it looks just like Antartica or something.

He was a Lt. in the Signal Corps and was responsible for about 90 vehicles. Every night they would have to drain every drop of oil and water out of the trucks, and every morning they would build big fires and heat the oil and water over it in big kettles. They would poor in the warm water into the radiators and then while one guy poured the hot oil into the crankcase the other guy would crank the engine. If they left one out without doing this overnight it was a wreck the next morning.

His biggest frustration was with the South Korean (ROK) troops. He often said that they were "as useless as tits on a boar hog", or something equally disparaging. (You had to know my Dad, he had a great way with words! (-:)

He and his buddies were angry that they seemed to draw all the garbage details while the ROK troops sat around and ate rice all day. Same deal in Vietnam from what I hear. You can't fight for people who won't fight for themselves...

Regards,

Norm
 
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