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Great post, jackknife!

My dad was blue-collar all his life, and he always had 'a' pocketknife on him...singular. Usually some type of Camillus 2-bladed jack knife. The only locking knife he ever had was an old Buck 110 whose edge was convex-ground. All his knives got used hard, and he only bought another when one had outlived its use for him. Then the old one got tossed into his tool box, or in the cup holding the pens on his desk. Later in life, he sometimes carried a Christie knife; it was probably easier for his very thick fingers to use than pulling open a small slipjoint folder. He would probably have been horrified to see the number of knives I have, and I know I have a lot fewer knives than a lot of knife nuts.

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People didn't collect knives then like now. The local hardware store had a display of Case, or Schrade, or maybe even Camillus, and that was that. People had a knife. That's "A" knife, singular. If something happened to that knife, or it finally was worn down to a skinny steel toothpick, they tossed it in the tool box and bought another one just like it.

Carl's wonderful post made me think about the displays that Camillus used to present in their old catalogues, and the prevailing idea that knife-buying was so much different back then. At that time, a fixed-blade in the profile and handle material of choice was probably as close to "tactical" as you'd get in a typical retail establishment, while a folder was something you bought for work or recreation without any sort of eye towards self-defense. That got me thinking about how the knives are marketed then versus now, and the state of "collecting" over the years.

Knives were, are, and will forever be tools first and foremost. Manufacturers realized this in the 20th century and marketed their products accordingly. You had knives for the hunter, the fisherman, the bushcrafter, the everyday working man... Whatever your cutlery needs, there was a knife. The key word being "needs", right?


In those days, like today, there was still a pretty big variety of knives available. As Carl pointed out, people would generally select the pattern that most closely fit their cutting needs and stick with that throughout. Some retailers didn't want to carry a full line of knives but they would pick out the segments they wanted to cater to, and manufacturers would often facilitate that. Camillus seemed to be one of the foremost in "tabletop marketing":


I think it's important to remember that there's always been knives which might fit into the (overly wide) realm of "tactical", even in the simpler days. Even years after the the war ended, cutlery companies were every bit as mindful of the military applications of their products as they were the sporting, bushcraft, or everyday "light use" aspects.




One of the documents I have found is the 1951 Government & Defense pamphlet in which Camillus shows off its plant and discusses its history. One might have the impression that they spent much more time marketing to the working man and not necessarily the fighting man, but both during and after times of conflict the factories were more than willing to "go tactical", as indicated by this Korean War-era snippet:


Eventually, civilians started to see "mil spec" and even "space age" creep into their personal knife purchases. Who here hasn't handled one of these steel beauties?


Maybe you've enjoyed a juicy steak with one of these slicers:


Another thing to keep in mind is that the hobby we all share wasn't necessary unheard of. Manufacturers and dealers would produce and sell cutlery with an eye to the hobbyist and the novelty aspects that we take for granted these days. When forging and honing steel first encountered the industrial revolution there might not have been much of a market for "collectors", but that changed once people started to see what we all do in our blades. Eventually, the "marketed to hobbyists" segment appeared (and, clearly, took off):








So while traditional cutlery might have been rooted in the hard-working blue collar man's everyday cutting needs, it started expanding and blossoming into the varied and highly specialized industry we see represented today by custom blade makers, "tactical" folders and even artisan-style pocket jewelry many of us love more than we're willing to admit to outsiders.

And let's all just be glad that cutlers didn't get too involved in the fashion industry...


(Excuse any image quality issues, I had to screencap the catalogue pages and convert to .jpg to post them. Not the most efficient way. :o)
 
GREAT POST, TB!!!!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Loved the vintage ads, and now wish I had a camillus shirt!:D Just for those dress up occasions, ya know.

It really was a whole other era. I wish I had my '62 Ford Falcon again.
 
Thanks, Carl. Coming from you that's particularly high praise. :o

I figured the thread could use a bit of a "rerailment" and a reminder that "tactical" and "traditional" aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. So sayeth collectors of the mid-20th. :D
 
Okay. So, just for compliance's sake, how much non-knife-related verbiage is allowed before it becomes the primary subject? I and others in this thread have tried to intersperse topical responses with knife content and draw the two subjects together, which seems to be the intention of the thread and the OP. Pointing out specific issues with execution might be appreciated by people who are just trying to enjoy the conversation?

Tsar, I would expect a man of your posting skill to be able to differentiate between "main topic of the post" and "ancillary addition with little relation to the main topic of the post".

Examples of posts not quite suited for Traditional might be posts 75, 80, 95, and 110, though there are many others.
Examples of on-topic posts might be seen in any number of other posts, such as 25, 26, 38, and your own in 144.
 
LOL, I'm really surprised that this thread is still open. Some very interesting content, thanks for the read everyone.
 
Examples of posts not quite suited for Traditional might be posts 75, 80, 95, and 110, though there are many others.
Examples of on-topic posts might be seen in any number of other posts, such as 25, 26, 38, and your own in 144.

Thanks. Just want to make sure I don't toe any lines. :thumbup: I guess the common thread among the former is what I'd refer to as "the Rambo-fantasy".

Of course who doesn't feel a little taller when wearing one of these lovelies on his hip?

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Dealer photo

You would not believe how long I've been trying to scoop one up without going bankrupt. :D
 
I feel naked with out a one hand opening knife on me. Normally these days its a Chris Reeve Inkosi. With its just under 3" blade its not very "Tactical" but something clipped to my pocket is important to me. I am 54 now and have had a knife in my pocket since I was a young boy so I am not going to stop carrying a knife now. I don't expect to ever need to defend myself with a knife and don't really want to. I do at times carry a pistol (with a CCW) which I also hope to never use, but its something that if you need it you really need it.

I do generally carry a second pocket knife and these days its a traditional that would work in my watch pocket or something like my Chris Reeve Mnandi. 99% of the time any knife I have really will only be used for opening mail, packages, or breaking down boxes for recycling. The second knife is just to have more to enjoy.
 
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