6 good ones

Tis lots of preetys! me likey! cheers for sharing guys!

Ill have to show my best sometime! ;)

Must admit JP it seems sacrilage to me,to have added too a genuine, provenanced kuk though, especialy when it was complete in the first place, talk about re writes history & artisticly doesnt even match. :barf:

Spiral
 
First you see it ,now you dont! Pic was there now its gone! strange things happen.oh well . sorry folks.
 
Rod's picture restored:
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"Must admit JP it seems sacrilage to me,to have added too a genuine, provenanced kuk though, especialy when it was complete in the first place, talk about re writes history & artisticly doesnt even match."

Spiral, what are you referring to?
 
Hi JP,
Well I know we all have are own opinions on this sort of thing.

But I am reffering to the Bazzet sirupate, I can see he or his regiment had the silver added to scabbard & that vast silver pommel added to the kukri, {unless perhaps it was made like that in the first place?}
I also realise some of the officers in the 10th GR also had silver tops to karda & chakma.

But as you were lucky enough to win this kukri, in its complete condition {with a fantastic flint purse, and belt frog as well} & the small tools that had traveled down through history with it.

So I must admit I am disapointed to see youve added presumably silver to thier handles. Persnaly it also looks totaly wrong in style to my eye.

Those original traditional wood handled ,smal tools set the sirupates silver fittings off a treat. {imho}

I know when kukris are in are hands we become part of that history as well, but it realy seems a shame to tamper with such a well provinenced piece.

I thought it a shame the sellor had forgotten or lost , the truth of his postion etc. & though you would revive protect that & his memory.

I understand these are just my views & you & others may totaly disagree.

Spiral
 
Ahhh!
There she is folks, the original Rod Allen Hanshee.
Ye Gods, what a piece of sensuous evil.

Someday, we ought to get HI to make some of those....



:D :D
 
"So I must admit I am disapointed to see youve added presumably silver to thier handles. Persnaly it also looks totaly wrong in style to my eye."

Apparently you consider yourself the arbiter of style to someone else's design done almost 90 years ago. What I do agree on is restoring as many original pieces or designs to a kukri's original state. The silver pommel caps were fitted after these traditional kukris were accepted into the regiment. There is not only written and photographic reference to this in various regiments, but a kukri similarly fitted at the GM.

"...but it realy seems a shame to tamper with such a well provinenced piece."
"I thought it a shame the sellor had forgotten or lost , the truth of his postion etc. & though you would revive protect that & his memory."

As someone dedicated to recording the history of these knives, their makers and owners I find your views absurd and insulting.
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John Powell, May I tell a story which pertains to this in its fashion?

Many years ago when my wife and I first moved to Idaho Falls, Idaho, we met and interacted with the Mormon community for the first time in our lives. To this day my best friend in this life was Mormon. My wife is a christian, and she of course disagreed with the Mormon doctrine strongly. My own religious beliefs are not like hers. After a while of making friends, doing business, hunting and fishing with the community I came to a conclusion: Though it was not for me, it was clear to me that the hand of God was on the Mormon church.

What has this to do with your khukuris? Simple. When I look at your photos, and listen to your voice as you discuss the subject, it is clear to me the love you have for these tools. I might even say the hand of God is upon you enjoying these blades. I would never think to change what or how you handle and outfit these instruments.


When someone puts love into what is in their hands, the result is unmistakable.
Questions about what you could have done or should have done are meaningless to my eyes as they regard your work.


munk
 
Well, Geeze, Clifton, we can listen to spiral; it just doesn't strike pay dirt.


munk
 
Dont take yourself so seriously JP!

If you set yourself up as the authority on any subject , some times people will questian you & your beliefs.

I stated "to my eye", that doesnt mean that my thoughts on style are correct for evryone,or indeed anyone but myself,

But the original kukri & kardas at the Gurkha museam are done with curves & style not like those caps that have been restored on these.

I didnt intend to insult you, & am sorry if you feel insulted. I regarded it as freindly banter, from a fellow kukri collector & amatour historian off the same.

Perhaps my veiws are absured, a bit like your theory of koras bieng the traditional main sword of the gurkhas. ;) But then none of us are perfect. :p

Any news on your book JP? 6 years work on it deserves to get published.
Hopefully soon.

Sorry if I rattled your cage, Ill go back to looking for kukris in the hedgrerows! ;) _{As I think you once told me when I showed you my first four kukris. Althought you did add a good luck to it!} { So Thanks you will not realise what a motivating comment that was to a country dwellor such as myself.Ive found a few goodies since then. ;) }

Ill try not to pass comment in futre, unless to say "tis preety", as it causes such offence to you.

Im Just glad I didnt mention my thoughts on those those green handled ones either.

Spiral

Munk, Jimmy, If either of you new anything other than modern kukris I would be surprised at your comments, but as you dont, Im not. :D
 
Spiral, regardless of the status of my knowledge, it was a mistake for you to include a gagging smiley face when talking to Mr. Powell about his work. That is just plain insulting. Also, if you'd taken the time to spell correctly it would suggest you were more thoughtful.
Hey- take it from me- we've all made our mistakes.
I'm glad you apologized.


munk
 
Spir,
YOU,would be surprised,what I know & what I don't know!
Jim >>>>>>>> Clifton

You've surprised me on more than one occasion. You are dangerously close to "the man who knew too much".



munk
 
ahhhh...."The Man Who Knew Too Much".....go Jimmy!
 
Munk I agree with you about the gagging face, that was innaprpriate. my error.

As for choosing to criticise my spelling, I though that was considered bad form & normaly a distraction from the matter in hand. :barf: :D

Sorry I type from the heart & not as if it was a thesis.

And As for kukris,

I seem to remember your post on the britishblades forum where you said you found it hard to belive that a 50 year old kukri could be as good as a modern one. {I laughed for days at that one!} :D So sorry if I questian that.

Jimmy your right i dont know what subjects you know I just have always found the best students questian authority not just agree without questian. ;)

Spiral AKA spir! :D
 
I don't know why you'd bring that up- Sirupate is still advising people not to use the old ones as hard as the newer renditions. At any rate, I've nothing to hide, and ask questions as I learn.. One thing that makes this forum stand out is such learning is not laughed at, but encouraged. No fear.


munk
 
Well Munk I cant speak for Sirupates veiws, But personaly I would say some kukris of old are of a quality & standerd that is not realy reached today.

Not all ww1 or 2 kukris are suitable for Himalayen imports tree felling fans as the were fighters & light utility blades.

Kukris were not used for major tree felling in Nepal , that is a modern American concept.

Also there is the matter of respecting & looking after historical artifacts.

War time production did sometimes drop in quality as well due to demand,.

But the good ones are very good!

Real genuine issue "marked" M43s are outstanding users for instance. That so far no manufacturer today has yet to equal.

But there are also many early 20th century kukris of formidible strength & workmanship.

overal if I had to take a kukri for real life survival I would take one of mine, made in 1927 that I would pit against any kukri ever made. I justify using it as someone cleaned it up to remove the original fire scale finnish {they probably thought it was rust & also partialy abbraded the army issue marks away as well! :rolleyes:

Spiral

Guess they made it nice & shiney though! :rolleyes:
 
Spir,
To question?? No prob.with that! You,however tried to belittle!What you did was in "poor form"& you know it!Had it been me,I would have mailed JP and asked my question.You take Martial Arts,had you tried to belittle an Instuctor,you would have had your A** handed to you & we BOTH know it.Questioning,Only in one area have I been the BEST student(I have the Rank,paid with blood,sweat,broken bones,& tears to prove it)& yes I did & do question & yes I drive JP up the wall with questions. JP was polite with his comments.As for the MA comment,YES,I was just as smug on the concrete Dojo floor & had MY A** handed to me. :D
Be safe ,
Jim Clifton
 
JP and Rob, those are some Fine knives you have there! :) bet they were fun to track down. Thanks for sharing them with us. :D

JP, the Chakma looks like it had a bolster. Is that correct? And if so, do you plan on making a new one? Thanks,

Heber
 
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