710, Military and Sebenza Comparison

One of the most import decisions in choosing the Sebenza as a military knife is it's ability to be taken apart and cleaned. I believe this to be almost as important as anything else. If I couldn't take my M16A3 or M9 apart and clean them, they would cease to function, probably at a most critical time. Same with my knife, if I am carrying a folder, it must be cleaned. The open architecture would cause some to say it would collect dirt easier, not so. It can get caked with dirt but is easier to knock the big stuff off to keep going. Try that with a closed architecture knife like the Spyderco and Benchmade!

No contest, my Sebenza was a great companion to my SAK and Randall.

Bruce
 
Originally posted by bruce
It can get caked with dirt but is easier to knock the big stuff off to keep going. Try that with a closed architecture knife like the Spyderco and Benchmade!
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The Milly has an open back - it's a piece of cake to clean.
 
I've never had a problem whittling with my Seb, and I have NEVER experienced any blade play with it. It's the only folder I've not experienced some amount of blade play with. It is possible to exert enough pressure on the Seb's lock, where it's a bit hard to disengage it though.

As for "cradle cuts", the Seb isn't bad. Then agin, "not bad" is how I'd describe most grips on most straight handle folders. They are never amazingly comfortable or ergonomic, but versatile enough to never be a problem. I consider this a plus for anybody who uses a large variety of grips.

I do like the fact that your finger makes direct contact with the spine of the blade on the Seb, unlike the 710. I always get a sense of added control when I get my finger on the spine.
 
For the record, my Millies stay remarkably cleaner than both my Seb and my 710. No contest in this category. All I've ever really had to do is rinse the Millie under the tap.
 
That was a great review, very informative and factual. I'd love to see some comparisons with the Al Mar SERE and the AFCK thrown into the mix.

Thanks again for another great review. PS..Congratulations on the new house.
 
Dang me!!! What a good review. I find myself not carrying the Sebenza as much as others - the size in the jeans front pocket seems too big. I generally go for the Benchmade.

M2 - love it!!!!!
 
Hi, Buzz...

Great review !!!

Can you please post a detailed pic of the blade of the 710 ? I'd like to see how is the black coating doing over time.

Thanks !

Andre Tiba - Brazil
 
Out of these 3 knives, which is the least likely to fold into your hand?
 
cotdt said:
Out of these 3 knives, which is the least likely to fold into your hand?
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Graveyard!

Basically - none of the above, under normal use. Now which is the STRONGEST lock (in the plane of blade movement) - I'd say probably the Chris Reeve Integral framelock (if it's from Chris Reeve).

The Military would probably be the weakest of the three, but IIRC, Sal (Glesser) mentioned that it was rated for hard use - can hold about 100 lbs per inch of blade.

I've used a few Axis folders, and they all perform pretty well, though detent is sometimes a bit less than I would want, and of the three designs, it is the most likely to clog with dirt/mud/lint/etc.
 
Holy sweet resurrections! A six-year old thread, but a CLASSIC review! Nice to view it once again (and subscribed)!
 
I didn't notice the age of the thread but that probably explains why I saw no pictures!
 
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senoBDEC said:
Basically - none of the above, under normal use. Now which is the STRONGEST lock (in the plane of blade movement) - I'd say probably the Chris Reeve Integral framelock (if it's from Chris Reeve).
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The Axis lock will be holding long after the frame lock fails. Simple fact. The testing has been done, by several different companies and members. Years ago, a member here secured the locked open blades of a Sebbie and a 710 in vices and then beat on the handles with a bat. The Sebbie failed and the 710 held.

Regards,
3G
 
3Guardsmen said:
The Axis lock will be holding long after the frame lock fails. Simple fact. The testing has been done, by several different companies and members. Years ago, a member here secured the locked open blades of a Sebbie and a 710 in vices and then beat on the handles with a bat. The Sebbie failed and the 710 held.

Regards,
3G
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Hmmmm. Not to dispute/argue/open up a can of worms but on the flip side, I've come across accounts of the Axis failing under less abusive instances in camp or wilderness settings (read over the other forum), though if I remember correctly, they were the Griptilian models and not the revered classic, the 710.

Again, I'm not here to argue. Just that locks, whatever form they maybe, will have an inherent breaking point somehow/sometime.
 
untamed said:
Hmmmm. Not to dispute/argue/open up a can of worms but on the flip side, I've come across accounts of the Axis failing under less abusive instances in camp or wilderness settings (read over the other forum), though if I remember correctly, they were the Griptilian models and not the revered classic, the 710.

Again, I'm not here to argue. Just that locks, whatever form they maybe, will have an inherent breaking point somehow/sometime.
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Nothing you said do I disagree with. Frame locks have been proven to be much harder to "gunk up" to the point of failure than the Axis lock. Personally, in a survival type scenario, I'd probably go with a frame lock over an Axis lock, simply because there are fewer things that can go wrong with that type of lock. The only thing I was trying get across was that, when it comes down to which lock is stronger (takes more weight and force to break), the Axis comes out ahead.

Regards,
3G
 
Wow!!!!! I started this thread before I had gray hair!!!!! Hehehehehehe

I'll have to take a look through the Buzzbait archives, and see if I can find the original review pictures.
 
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