710 or military? or sebenza?

M

myplea

BANNED
Joined
Aug 9, 2006
Messages
126
Hi folks.
I have a caly3 that failed under the pressure of my own hand when I stuck it in the rib cage of a deer. I k now that a fixed blade is better but i am more likly to carry a folder than a fixed blae.

first of all, do you consider these 3knives hard use knives? are they in the same league when it comes to strength?

second, which of these 4# blades would you prefer and why?

I am looking for a folder with a 4# blade that can withstand rough use.

It will be a camp, hunting and skinning folder for big game.

The manix is too big with out offering extra blade length.

Thanks
 
seb doesn't have a 4 inch blade so that's out. So you want something that's light, thin but can take abuse? Might be a tough order.
 
DaveH said:
seb doesn't have a 4 inch blade so that's out. So you want something that's light, thin but can take abuse? Might be a tough order.
Click to expand...

That's exactly what I am looking for. thin light and strong. you summed it up daved.

So what is the closest thing to this order?
 
Sebenza would be pretty easy to clean, but it, as you know, is very expensive in comparison to the 710. The 710 is pretty unlikely to close on you, and is easier on the wallet.
 
I like the large Sebenza, but like Dave said, the balde is less than 4 inches. For the use you describe why not get a Shadow IV? It's a lot less money than the Seb but I think it would serve you better for the use you describe.:);)
 
You know a fixed blade is stronger and less likely to fail.

You've had a very good folder fail on you.

You want the knife for camping, hunting, etc.

And you are still looking for another folder?

Son, learn from your own experience! Get yourself a good fixed blade for the woods - it's what they were made for. Use the folder in town, where you won't be dressing out any deer or elk, or building your shelter, or batoning kindling, etc.
 
Siggyhk said:
Sebenza would be pretty easy to clean, but it, as you know, is very expensive in comparison to the 710. The 710 is pretty unlikely to close on you, and is easier on the wallet.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the tip. I feel the seb would be worth the price for me if it had a 4# blade>
 
Scott Dog said:
I like the large Sebenza, but like Dave said, the balde is less than 4 inches. For the use you describe why not get a Shadow IV? It's a lot less money than the Seb but I think it would serve you better for the use you describe.:);)
Click to expand...

Hi scott and thanks.

A shadow is a great fixed blade. I am more likely however to Cary a folder.
 
Grampa said:
You know a fixed blade is stronger and less likely to fail.

You've had a very good folder fail on you.

You want the knife for camping, hunting, etc.

And you are still looking for another folder?

Son, learn from your own experience! Get yourself a good fixed blade for the woods - it's what they were made for. Use the folder in town, where you won't be dressing out any deer or elk, or building your shelter, or batoning kindling, etc.
Click to expand...

sound advice Grampa. I know the caly was the wrong knife for the task but surly there must be a folder out there that can do the job.

:) thanks
 
I alternate between a Case Shark Tooth Lockback and a Buck 110. I've field dressed and skinned deer with the Case.

I do own a Benchmade 710 and can tell you it's plenty strong to use as a field knife. It looks like it would be easy to clean too, but I've never used it hunting....

If you want something a little different try a Grohmann Folding Belt Knife ( A G Russell has them). It has a very wide blade that makes it perfect as a skinning knife. I own one but haven't used it yet ( I have too many knives):)

GR300.gif
 
Find yourself a smaller fb for hunting. I absolutely hated carrying a fixed blade on my belt at first coupla years ago, but now I look forward to it, and have several EDC's that I rotate daily.
 
Get the Sebenza. I don't think you need a 4 in blade for fied dressing anyway. 3 1/2 in blade works well for me.
 
KeithAM said:
A member called "Buzzbait" did an excellent review of the 3 knives together a few years back.

Here it is:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241702&highlight=military+sebenza

I agree with Grampa below that you're better off with a fixed blade. Look at some of Bark River's offerings.
Click to expand...

What a great review>

the only problem is that the steel used in those knives at the time of the review was different. The Seb was bg42 the mili was 440v and the 710 was m2

However, it was a great review for those three knives. thnaks man.
 
myplea said:
the only problem is that the steel used in those knives at the time of the review was different.
Click to expand...

True enough. I especially hated seeing Benchmade drop M2.

Anyway, do yourself a huge favor and go with a fixed blade. Look at the Bark Rivers:

www.barkriverknifetool.com

There's a dealer in the UK -- Outdoor Supplies -- but it looks like their website is down at the moment.
 
No folder qualifies as a hard use knife, in my not so humble opinion. Get a good fixed blade, and it won't break on you like that.
 
if you want a tough FOLDER for outdoor use then id get the 710 with d2 steel. I dont know if you are going to find much more of a tough folder then the 710 and i dont know if you are going to find much more of a tough steel that is currently being produced in a folder then D2
 
The AXIS lock of the 710 is probably the strongest lock of the three, but I can't really see a Sebenza failing either.

I also recommend that you get a good fixed blade for hard use, preferably full tang. Busse is the best and something like a Badger Attack Tac or Meaner Street would serve you well for the rest of your life. The BATAC is currently available in several color combinations from http://www.bussecompanystore.com/ but won't stay there for long (think gone in a few hours). A 5.5 inch (small) spec ops sheath should fit the badger fine; they are available from several places, one is tadgear. If you should find that you absolutely can't stand carrying a fixed blade, you should easily be able to at least recover all your money by selling it (actually you can probably turn a profit). I cannot recommend this enough.
 
The only reason I wouldn't want the axis lock is because with field dressing game the mechanism would be a mess and tough to get clean.
 
myplea said:
Hi folks.
I have a caly3 that failed under the pressure of my own hand when I stuck it in the rib cage of a deer. I k now that a fixed blade is better but i am more likly to carry a folder than a fixed blae.

:snip:

The manix is too big with out offering extra blade length.

Thanks
Click to expand...

Strange that no one has asked about the failure mode on the Caly.

-Was it user error, ie. was the lock not fully engaged?
-Was the lock dirty from previous use or EDC so that it was not fully locked?

From what I've heard from the Caly something is bound to break before the lock mechanism itself breaks.

Did the lock work afterwards?

Inquiring minds want to know :).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top