72 hr survival kit?

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I know this isn't quite a knife question, but didn't know where to ask it guys...

Not nearly an expert on this, but what might someone put into an alice pack or something similar for a 72 hr survival kit? Assume I have a belt with 2 canteens of water, cup under the canteen, canned heat, belt pack of bandages and space blanket, and some water purification tablets, iodine tablets. What else would a person add to it? Really interested in finalizing my pack and would appreciate some imput, thanks a lot...
 
What is the scenerio? Where? City, surbubia, country? Sound like Y2K bug out fever!
2 Qts. of water (for 3 days) is cutting it way short, I'd add 6-9 MRE'S and as many knives as you can possibly carry! A large fixed blade like a mad dog (stir, boil and bubble) or recon scout and a locking folder should do it. Maybe a set of dry clothes (depending on climate)...just my 2¢ worth...I'm sure there are others more qualified than me. Good luck and I hope you don't need it.
 
that was supposed to be "suburbia" & "Sounds like" Apologies, I should be a better poofreader.
 
anti-bacterial Ointment
pain killers
a knife
waterproof matches
small pocket cooker stove w/fuel bars
para cord(you always need para cord
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alcohol
light source(light sticks or flashlght)
toilet paper
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multi-tool(ya never know)
first aid/snake bite kit

And most important;
a sack of White Castle hamburgers
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Louis Buccellato
http://www.themartialway.com

 
yeah, have a knife, and some rope as well, forgot that. Matches I will add, and a flashlight & lightstick or 3.

It's a forest situatuation, I live in New Hampshire...
 
small magnet
magnifying glass
watch
generator powered radio
toothbrush and toothpaste

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA



 
Well due to my vast experience with survival and the woods here is what I think. Add some para cord(50ft), some light twine for lashing, needles and thread, snare wire, fishing line+weights in a film canister which can be used as a bobber, matches, lighter, magnifying glass, some varied meication, some broth cubes to make into tea, some sugar and salt and a lot of tin foil for cooking etc... to get a better idea pick up the book SAS Survival Handbook. Its a great book. Well there is a start if you want more info contact me.
 
Interesting post about including alcohol. I put a small bottle of Everclear or "generic" equivalent in my bag. It is WAY more flammable than Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, it is ingestible should you need to use a small amount for extracting medicines from plants, it works as a cooling agent, it removes grease and/or oils, it sterilizes, and if you happen to come out of the emergency ok and are so inclined, you could have a celebratory drink. (I don't drink, and wouldn't recommend this stuff if I did.)
 
Above senario,

More water,
water proof matches[or disposable bic],
550 cord,
'camp knife' or equalivant,
space blanket,
pocket multi-tool,
asprin,
sidearm and ammo,
cell phone,
cash,

The last few items are there becuase you said this was New Hampshire. This means generally rural, but inhabited territory. Making do around civilization means, guns, money and cell phone. These items are based on a few minutes thought, I'm sure we could come up with more items.....

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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery




[This message has been edited by Will Fennell (edited 09 November 1999).]
 
One possible scenario is the unexpected emergency evacuation. It could go like this: it's a peaceful evening. You've just finished dinner and are sitting down with a good book when there's a knock at the door. Who could that be? My goodness, it's a police officer. "Officer, how can I be of assistance this evening?"

"There's been an accident down the road. A truck carrying hazardous materials is overturned and if it catches fire, there'll be cloud of poisonous gases that'll come right over this house. We're evacuating the neighborhood. Get out immediately!"

What do you do?

Keep a duffle bag packed with a simple change of cloths for everyone in the family.

Keep your shaving kits packed and prescription medications in one place.

Keep your important records and papers (medical records, insurance records, deeds, titles, recent financial records, etc., adoption papers, wedding records, important legal records, etc.) all in one place. Keep keys to any car or RV you don't use often in this same place so you don't have to hunt for 'em. Same for keys to any second residence you may have. Also keep a list of phone numbers of family and friend you might need to call as well as professional contacts such as insurance agents, your broker, lawyer, doctor, etc. I recommend one of the Sentry fire-resistant chests. Not only will it protect your records, but it has a handle on it and you can grab it and throw it in the trunk. I call mine "the football" after the briefcase full of crypto codes and equipment kept near the president to handle military emergencies.

Keep emergency bedding such as sleeping bags ready to go and in one convenient place. A shelf in the garage works well. Other basics such as have been outlined should also be kept collected in one place.

If you have pets who will come with you, collect their needs, a spare bowl, a spare leash, a few days worth of food, etc., into a handy duffel bag.

If you have pets that will stay (fish, for example) have the supplies and equipment they'll need (a time-release food cube, a timer for lights, etc.) organized and ready to go.

If you have a baby, prepare an emergency diaper bag including baby food, etc. and keep it ready to go.

It's also a good idea to mark the circuit breakers in your electrical panel that you'll want to hit off on the way out. Of course, don't turn off the one that has the fridge on it, leave the heat on. The one with the heating tape on the pipes on it should stay on, but the rest just turn 'em off. This way you don't waste time running around the house making sure you've unplugged the iron, etc. Just hit the breakers and go.

Next, prepare an "emergency egress checklist." Organize it so that you can make one and only one trip through the house picking up what you need from each room and making sure that everything is secure as you go (windows are closed, faucets are turned off, the fridge door is closed, etc., etc., etc.) all in one quick trip. The final item on the list is "Lock the front door behind you."

Finally, drill everyone. Some evening when the family is all sitting quietly, just jump up and declare an emergency evac drill. Start your stop watch and see how fast you can get the house secure and everything and everyone into the car and ready to go.




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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.4cs.net/~gollnick
 
The following is a list of several bug-out bags. Read them all and compile a list of things that would be helpful to you.
http://www.survival-center.com/dl-list/dl1-toc.htm


In the end, it is up to you, keep in mind you may end up having to carry all this equipment in a pack sack, so weight and volumne count.

Good luck and have fun,

Regards,

xxxx
 
Great stuff to start out on. Yes, I would have to bring more water, but it does get heavy to carry if going really far, and was considering a water pump. Do they really get the job done?
 
Carrying more than a few quarts of water is a stupid waste of effort. Yes, a water filter, or better yet a purifier is the way to go. I have an MSR Miniworks water filter which will
remove Giardia, Crypto, and other one celled life down to about 1 micron. I also have a
Pur Voyageur water PURIFIER. It has an iodinated cartridge that KILLS viruses and will make just about any water drinkable. One of these in a backpack and all you need to carry is a few quarts of water, stop as you go to refill from available streams/rivers/pools. The units are small, light, and filter a couple of hundred gallons each. The Miniworks has a ceramic filter element that you can scrub clean after hard use, it will filter about 200-300 gal before it needs replacing. Get one.

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"How do I stop this thing?"
 
Gollnicks post is not farfetched and unlike what the general public perceives it is not only"cult" members(Wco-Ruby Ridge) who are affected by government/law enforcement actions.
About 15 years ago approx.70 homeowners in a large US city were asked early in the morning to leave their homes by the police.They were told they would be returning later that day.The police were attempting to remove and arrest a troublesome house of neighbors.When SWAT teams moved in there was a firefight involving tens of thousands of rounds.Weapons ranged from fully auto,supressed .22s to .50 Caliber machine guns.Finally a bomb was dropped on the house resulting in a fire which destroyed all these homeowners residences.
Although the city eventually built new homes for them no personal items survived.People just walked out the door with the clothes on their back thinking they'd return shortly.What a great idea it would have been if they had bags packed as mentioned in Gollnicks post to grab on the way out.

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Tim

 
Gollnick, excellent post. Having had two local HazMat incidents in the last few weeks, the timing is quite apropos. The biggest advantage I can see in your proposal is for those ocaissions where one might have only several minutes or so to get the hell out. This drill could be accomplished in that amount of time, with the proper preparation, foresight, and practice. Excellent, sir.

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Don LeHue

The pen is mightier than the sword...outside of arm's reach. Modify radius accordingly for rifle.


 
Most urban evacuation scenarios I consider likely would just require moving to another urban area and checking into a motel. The scenario that is most likely and dangerous in my area, around the Rocky Mountains, is blizzard or other cold weather stranding. This can occur with essentially zero notice and you start with what you are carrying. I always carry a full butane lighter and an SAK. If it isn't mid summer I always bring a jacket in the car. You can die on your way home from work if you get caught in a freak October blizzard.

One of the best kinds of kits to have is your car kit. Besides the standard jack it's good to have an electric tire pump, tire plugging kit, road flares, chains, and enough tools to fix wiring or pull and clean spark plugs. Some long underware and an extra coat or sweater is good. Add some type of plastic poncho (a 33 gallon garbage bag works). For emergency shelter bring along a plastic drop cloth and 50 feet of parachute cord. Throw in a cheap gallon jug of bottled water.

For a source of heat Everclear is good. When burned, alcohol doesn't put out carbon monoxide as easily as other fuels. If you carry a roll of toilet paper you can soak it with alcohol and ignite for heat.

If I'm going into the mountains I would add a small hatchet and a small shovel. A compass is good. More road flares are worthwile. When weather is impossibly bad and your fingers are freezing an auto flare can't be beat for starting a fire. They have also been known to discourage bears.

Subject to legal constraints I like to have my titanium .22 revolver and 100 rounds of ammo.
 
Whew... I thought I was going to be the only one to remember the Glock and some high performance ammo.

Koski
 
Check these links out http://forums.ar15.com/Forum7/HTML/000034.html and http://forums.ar15.com/Forum7/HTML/000087.html for good info on what to carry on your person or to carry in a bag for a 72+ hour "survival" kit.

PS..Only thing diffrent I'm doing now is the addition of a Krill light removal of the GPS, 2nd compass added and the Randall has been replaced by a Busse #9. We have Mainstay survival rations in the web gear.

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