8 Years of the Spyderco Military

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Every once in a while you find that perfect thing. The one that sort of completes you and becomes your long time companion. It might be a trusted hunting dog. It might even be a wife, if you’re lucky. It could be a classic car that you never get tired of driving. I’ve had the privilege of running into this a few times in my life, the Spyderco Military being one of them.

I bought my first Military almost exactly 8 years ago. To be honest, I was not impressed at first. I had a love for natural handle materials, and G-10 was the antithesis of natural beauty. I was also more than a bit intimidated by the size of the Millie. After 30 years of small and medium sized slipjoints, a large tactical folder can be quite a shock to the senses. The Military had no full steel liners. No flipper. No “fun to play with” Axis lock. The 440V blade was hard for a tactical knife neophyte to sharpen. And the Military just didn’t have those elegant flowing lines that so many other knives possessed. On paper, Millie looked like a complete bust.

So I made Millie my beater, hoping to use it up and break it, and then get to buy something more to my preference. But the darned thing turned out to be impossible to break, and after using it so much, I finally took a shining to it. The lock always held. The grip was always excellent. And the blade always made the cut. I don’t know. Maybe that’s what a tactical folder really is, a collection of common sense features without aesthetic frills that might get in the way of function. If so, you can’t get much more tactical in a folder than a Spyderco Military. To be truthful, I still find it to be a hideous beast. I just see the beauty in its ugliness now. It’s kind of like admiring a hyena. It’s not cute and cuddly, but it is one of the most amazing predators in existence.

I used that first Military like it was going to go out of style, for about two or three years. It was also the knife that I learned my proper sharpening techniques on. I sharpened it over and over and over, trying to develop a good reproducible method. Because of this, the blade was worn down very prematurely, to the point where the flat ground blade had noticeably lost cutting efficiency. This was about the time that Spyderco first switched to S30V. So I gave that first Military to an LEO friend of mine, and made the upgrade to S30V.

The S30V Military has served me well for many years, and was used almost every day for the first couple of years. It hasn’t seen a whole lot of EDC use over the last two or three years, but has remained as my outdoor carry of choice. The only real reason for its displacement from EDC has been the less than thoroughly positive ball detent. I wear a lot of loose fitting shorts and khaki’s these days, and have had issue with the Military inadvertently opening in baggy pockets. The S30V steel is fine for me. I don’t love it like I love M2, D2 and BG-42, but it’s good enough for most occasions. The Millie is also maybe a little big for my EDC today. It was fine a few years ago, but with today’s public attitude towards knives, I’ve scaled down just a tad, to something less conspicuous. The Benchmade Griptilian and Spyderco Endura get the most carry in public now.

My prompting to write this review is my latest acquisition in the Spyderco Military lineage, the black blade digicam Military. I’ve never been much of a mall ninja or anything, but I like this Millie a lot. Camo is fashionable at this point in time, and I’ve grown to appreciate the rust resistance afforded by blade coatings. I’ve haven’t tried Spyderco’s blade coating until now, but am very impressed by my coated Benchmade blade. Hopefully, Spyderco will do as well.

This new Military sports quite a few small refinements over my admittedly old model. The most noticeable change is in the blade jimping. The old “tank tread” spine jimping is now gone, and a more traditional blade jimping appears on both the spine and finger choil. The newer style of jimping seems to be just as functional as the tank tread. I like the look of the tank tread much better, but I have to admit that the new style causes much less abrasion on my hand, when I dig into my pocket. The tank tread was a real cheese grater. The finger choil jimping is a very welcome addition.

It also seems that Sal and company have thought fit to add a second nested liner to the handle of the Military, as well as moving from plastic washers on the pivot to the more popular phosphor bronze washers. I don’t notice any functional difference in these changes. The blade opens with the same level of smoothness, and the handle feels to have the exact same rigidity, but they seem to be intelligent upgrades. If anything, the Military has become more robust.

My favorite change to the Military is the ball detent. The detent on my new digicam is far more positive than the detent on my first two versions. This is a night and day change. Now that the detent is so much stronger, I have a feeling that the Military may be back in my front pocket for quite some time, and may actually return to EDC duty. The size of the backspacer has become smaller on the new version, which is fine with me. The more open the design of the knife is, the cleaner it stays, and the easier it is to clean. This has always been a strong point of the Military, and seems to be getting even stronger.

One other small cosmetic change is the engraving on the blade. The word “MILITARY” is now gone, and has been replaced by the Spyderco bug. The word “MILITARY” never bothered me at all, but I definitely prefer having the bug there. The bug rocks.

I also noticed that the pocket clip screws have changed from philips head to torx. My older S30V Military had Philips screws for the pocket clip, torx for the scales and hex for the pivot. It took a whole tool box just to get the darned thing apart. I’m down to just two drivers now, which is perfect. A very practical and welcome change.

I don’t notice much else. The scales on my digicam are a tad more grippy than on my older S30V Millie, but that’s probably just my old ones smoothing out over time. The lock is just as vault-like as the old one. I actually had to adjust the old lock recently. The blade had developed just a hint of vertical play after many years of abuse. A slight rotation of the stop pin, brought the lock right back to perfection. Even after all this time, the lock bar still does not even travel half way across the blade tang.

The blade hasn’t really changed. It still has that same splinter picker tip that comes in so handy, and that thumb ramp that helps give the Military such a wonderful grip. I picked up a vernier scale in the office, and measured the blade edge to be around .025”. Exactly the same as my old S30V Military. It’s not the ultra-high performance edge of my Spyderco Caly3 (.015) or Benchmade Rittergrip (.015), but it is a very resilient edge that slices like crazy. It’s a great blade for heavy duty cutting, that also retains the ability to perform smaller tasks.

The shape of the handle scales seem to be the same. You still get that spectacular grip that few other folders have yet to achieve. And now, with the addition of the finger choil jimping, the choked up position is even more secure than it used to be.

Spyderco has definitely improved their fit and finish over the years. The digicam Military is far better in these regards than my older model. The backspacer now lines up perfectly with the handle scales, and the blade shows far fewer machine marks at the tang and round hole than previously versions. Even the centering of the blade has improved slightly, although this means very little to me personally. This is my third Spyderco in a row that has shown much improved finish. The others are the Caly3 and the Police3.

Do I have any criticisms? Yes, but nothing too big. S30V is nice, but I’d prefer to see an upgraded steel on this model. S30V has been known to be a tad brittle at times, which is definitely not good on a blade this large, with such a pointy tip. Taking a tip from Benchmade and including a tougher tool steel as an option would be very nice. If Spyderco could produce something less brittle but harder than their S30V, I’d be on it in a heartbeat. And on the digicam model specifically, all black hardware would have been nice, if Spyderco could have come up with something more durable than the old black painted screws. Same goes for the pocket clip. I much prefer whatever Benchmade uses on their flat black pocket clips and hardware. It holds up much better.

So other than a few minor critiques, the Military is still a great knife by today’s standards, 8 years later. I sure can’t say that about many other production folders in the knife business. The Military would still be good if it hadn’t changed one iota from my first 440V Millie, but thanks to Spyderco’s continual refinements, the Military just keeps getting better and better.

My original review of the 440V Military, from back in 2003, can be found here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264955


Some photos of the new black blade digicam Military:

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Thanks for the great review. My first experieces with Spyderco (25?) years ago were not good ones. At the urging of a knife vendor, I bought the Tenacious, and wow.... what a knife. I don't care where it was made, nor how much it cost. As it is, it is a great little knife.

FF to your review. I agree. Spyderco had just been getting better and better for some time. I like the Millie myself, and your review shows that their commitment to the craft of knife making continues.

I like the bug more than the text, too.

I think the only thing that doesn't appeal to me on the particular knife you reviewed is the digital camo. I do a lot of outside activities, including work, and if I dropped it in low light or fairly heavy brush I would be concerned it would be lost. Pretty convincing camo...

Robert
 
Thanks for the update. I was kind of suprised, by your comment:

The only real reason for its displacement from EDC has been the less than thoroughly positive ball detent. I wear a lot of loose fitting shorts and khaki’s these days, and have had issue with the Military inadvertently opening in baggy pockets.

I've not had this problem with spydercos. Did it do this from day 1 or develop it with time? If it developed the problem, you may need to clean some gunk out of the ball detent hole or from around the ball.
 
I've not had this problem with spydercos. Did it do this from day 1 or develop it with time? If it developed the problem, you may need to clean some gunk out of the ball detent hole or from around the ball.

Both my 440V and old S30V models have had ball detents that were weaker than I'd prefer. But then again, I like a very strong detent. I'm picky that way. I also think that the detent on my Paramilitary is far too weak. As far as the Military's go, it was possibly a couple of things. The S30V detent may not have been as positive to lock as I'd like. Also, on the 440V model, the fit and finish of earlier models may not have allowed the pivot to be screwed down as tight, while still allowing a very smooth pivot action, causing the detent to loosen up. It seems as though Spyderco has made continual improvements over the years, possibly in more than one area, that has created a detent that I am finally happy with.

Again, keep in mind that I am very picky about detents, and anything having to do with the blade opening accidentally. My Strider SNG has a nasty tendency to wave when pulling the knife from my pocket, that really bothers me. The detent is plenty strong, but I don't carry the knife much, just because of this issue. If I had my druthers, I might prefer that the Military be tip-up carry. I could have the blade pressed against the seam of my pants that way, which would prevent the blade from ever opening unexpectedly. Then again, that would greatly limit the carry options for the Millie, which would be a shame. Ultimately, I love back locks and the axis lock, for the spring assisted method of holding the blade in the closed position.
 
Great review, thanks! I'd love to see a VG 10 version of the Millie. I really like the overall package, but would like a different steel.
 
Well they DID come out with a Bg-42 version with Carbon Fiber. You could look into that since it was on your list of steels you like and the CF is sweet.
 
The CF is amazing. Snag one of those if you can.

If you want an insane ball detent, try the Gerber Artifact. You almost have to pry the thing open.

Great review there. A very enjoyable read. :thumbup:
 
Great review. I've carried a Military for years myself, only recently switching over to another Spyderco, the Wegner, although the military still sees some daily carry.

I would have to put it in the Top Ten folders list for sure.
 
Agree great review on a knife that always impresses. I think there's talk of an orange G10 one coming out later this year. I might have to get another!
 
Great review. I have thought a long time about whether or not I will get a Millie, and I believe this review has answered that.
 
Buzz,

Being almost 8 years on BF as well (lurked for some years), when I finally signed-up around the time of that particular review, what struck me was how it was informative, comprehensive yet entertaining without losing the significant details. It also has that down-to-earth tone that doesn't intimidate or "posture" intellectually so that any layman could relate to.

This review is no exception and it's nice to note the "evolution" of this folder as one's constant tool. Thanks again!
 
Excellent review. I especially appreciate your insights into the evolution of the Military design.

I've also experienced a less than stout ball detent in my S30V Military (from 2003). I tightened the pivot for a little extra security.

The Military is no longer my EDC folder of choice, having been replaced by an easier to carry CRK Sebenza, but it is still in the rotation. I tote it on days when I need a ruthlessly efficient cutter.
 
A very enjoyable review, Buzz.

My most carried EDC is an S90V CF Millie, but the BG-42 is terrific as well.
 
Thanks for the review. Military had been my favourite EDC (although I don't carry knives most of the times) for some time until Al Mar S2K, but if Sal could make a Military with steel liners, frame lock and VG-10 blade, I might switch back to Spyderco. Yeah, with micarta handles for sprint run version as well!
 
It has been your "fishing knife" and you´ve convexed the CPM440V edge. ;)

I guess, i remember the old topic.


I still convex the edges of many of my knives. I just finished convexing the edge of my Endura4 the other night. I wanted to thin out the edge a bit, but still keep the edge nice and strong. That polishing of the edge during the convex sharpening really made it a hair splitter. I'm now trying to decide whether to leave the blade as it is, or to thin out the edge even more, raising the convex portion ever further up the grind. Decisions, decisions, decisions.........

Now that I have the digicam Millie, I'm thinking about convexing my old S30V Military.
 
Excellent first post :thumbup:

I really want to get myself the black coated digi-camo military :D
 
Thanks for the update. I have found the Military clipped to my pocket more than any other knife over the years. I find the lightweight and slim design, along with the useful blade shape, cutting ability, and rock solid grip hard to beat. Glad to see a new Millie added to your stable, your pics make me wanna go camo, great lookin Millie!
 
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