9mm approved as medical device

Man - that thing would be lethal on both ends - I want one too but don't think it would get past our Therapeutic Goods Act
 
At $300, it is probably the most affordable medical device that has gotten FDA approval in decades...
 
Sad thing is the ...I hate to call it a firearm but I guess it is..."firearm" in question is somewhat of a joke. fingers an inch from the muzzle, no protection for the firing hand, one shot, slow to load....and pray the person who owns it doesn't have an asthma attack late at night and makes a mistake!

If you love you grandparents buy them a decent 38 revolver if they can't handle a semi-auto. A S&W 442 with a decent trigger job is as safe, probably safer, and easy to use.
 
This is in effect a parody of the FDA and while I appreciate it, would we really want to see the whole 'gun culture' (for lack of better term) transplanted into the Orwellian world of government and medicine? "Be careful what you wish for" definitely applies here.
 
wutitiz said:
This is in effect a parody of the FDA and while I appreciate it, would we really want to see the whole 'gun culture' (for lack of better term) transplanted into the Orwellian world of government and medicine? "Be careful what you wish for" definitely applies here.
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It is already within the Orwellian world of government, but you do have wise words.

One of the gambits for eroding the gun rights is to make it a public health hazard. Getting the FDA involved is probably not something we want.
 
Wow the whole article changed from just a few hours ago with a notice at the bottom:

An earlier version of this article reported that the FDA had accepted the Palm Pistol as a medical device, based on last week's registration.



I thought my tin foil hat was leaking until I saw the disclaimer.
 
It just so happens I still had the original article available on my home computer.

Here is how it worked, sounds complicated and unrealistic:
The proposed Daily Activity Assist Device (as it is called by the FDA) would be symmetrical, ambidextrous, and made largely of stainless steel.

For the gun to be fired, two mechanical safeties must be depressed with the fingers on either side of the barrel before the trigger, located on the top and bottom of the gun, is pressed by the thumb.

A three-digit combination lock is set opposite to the loading button to help prevent accidental discharge.

The Palm Pistol would hold a single cartridge, loaded by pressing a button in the middle of the combined stock and receiver, which swings to the side.

"A single shot means it's clearly for self-defense," said Carmel. Depending on sales of the single-shot version, he says a multiple-shot version could be possible.
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The bolded part might just drive me to rage that a developer would believe that a single-shot clearly shows it to be for self-defense. The absurdity is furthered by the two safeties and a 3 combo lock on it. How someone suffering from arthritis could possible do all that and count on it for self defense...bah.
 
For people with arthritus huh? I'd hate to have arthritus and feel the recoil from a 9mm in that small of a frame. Seems like an ill thought out idea.
 
Absintheur said:
Sad thing is the ...I hate to call it a firearm but I guess it is..."firearm" in question is somewhat of a joke. fingers an inch from the muzzle, no protection for the firing hand, one shot, slow to load.
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You should check out the Downsizer WSP in .357 magnum. :eek:

That will definitely singe the hair off yer knuckles.
 
Seems the motivation here is to produce a weapon that if "approved" would be capable of being paid for by medicare or insurance; thereby increasing sales....

The practicality of the device seems...Questionable.

I pointed out on another forum that the thing would have very little intimidation factor... "Hey Gramps, what's that, your inhaler?"
 
Seems reasonable. You people aren't looking into this. Someone that can't operate a 6-12lb trigger of a revolver or pull a slide, load a magazine could operate this.

Slow to load? How fast is the RA patient or MS patient going to load? This is a last ditch for someone unable to use standard firearms. What would you suggest? Its seems to me there would be a market for the least infirm bodies.


And lastly, I think I would take the recoil/burn then being beaten to death /stabbed to death by someone else.


Paul
 
Paul,
I have to agree with you..."Slow to load? How fast is the RA patient or MS patient going to load?"
I was injured in 2004 in an auto accident.. since then I have nerve damage in my C-spine that causes my 3 fingers on my left hand to have altered feeling, and at ANY time the hand can go into spasm (in which ALL my fingers move involuntarily.) Prior to the accident I did a lot of shooting with both Pistol and Rifle. Loading a clip is hard unless I have something holding it... and the rifle I am unable to keep steady due to the weight.
This IS interesting...... though I could NEVER see Medicare covering something like this, when they don't even cover the pain medications I'm on.


Zen~~One of the gambits for eroding the gun rights is to make it a public health hazard. Getting the FDA involved is probably not something we want.

Nope the FDA is ALREADY a PITA when it comes to medications.... They'd have a field day with "Firearms the NEW Public Health Threat"

Hope you guys didn't mind me putting my 2cents in.

Willow
 
It is not fit for purpose. It lacks for operational safety and real operational deterrent. Warn off a thug and he will laugh at your inhaler pretending to be a gun. Blam and either he goes down or you warn him with a shot and unless you kill with that shot there will be some serious retribution.

For Asthmatics it is the inhaler to cure all problems permenantly.
 
Tim-Gabz said:
It is not fit for purpose. It lacks for operational safety and real operational deterrent. Warn off a thug and he will laugh at your inhaler pretending to be a gun. Blam and either he goes down or you warn him with a shot and unless you kill with that shot there will be some serious retribution.

For Asthmatics it is the inhaler to cure all problems permenantly.
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So what firearm fits that bill for the infirm?

It easy to list its problems, but if there is no other option...;)



Paul
 
pcnorton said:
So what firearm fits that bill for the infirm?

It easy to list its problems, but if there is no other option...;)



Paul
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This isn't Whine and Cheese so I'll be polite, precious little. I know a couple in Harare some years back used to use a North American Arms .22 in a folder format. Not ideal but gave them more than one shot although they had to be recocked manually. Pepper spray got them beaten up pretty bad accounting for the husbands infirmities.
 
It was nothing worth getting worked up about. The story changed from what I originally posted to something else a few hours later (thus is the joy of internet news).

It doesn't exist and never did.

The original description had a safety, however it really sounded far to complicated for someone with arthritis to operate. Since it was never made, we'll never know. ;)
 
What an old guy can do is offer it to the robber as a nazal painkiller (terminal alas) and watch the guy to top himself.
 
Tim-Gabz said:
This isn't Whine and Cheese so I'll be polite, precious little. I know a couple in Harare some years back used to use a North American Arms .22 in a folder format. Not ideal but gave them more than one shot although they had to be recocked manually. Pepper spray got them beaten up pretty bad accounting for the husbands infirmities.
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I don;'t understand? Why threaten about being impolite?:confused::confused: I hope you dind't thimnk i was being impolite. If so, I didn't intend for my words to be considered impolite.

The pistol is for somone with litlle strenght or dexterity, the infirm would have a difficult time with the NAA .22 after the first shot.

It would be interesting to see an handicap accessible pistol. This design although imperfect is better than anything else I have seen for people with the afflictions mentioned.

Paul
 
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