A bit bothered by this test

They can break a Spydie.. But not the spirit of a Spydernut.. That I can tell ya! ;)

Sam
 
C'mon you guys. This is a subjective test. Try to keep perspective.

Out CATRA tests consistently shows CPM-S30V cuts twice as long as ATS/154cm. Twice the edge retention on a consistent machine. How do you go from a 10 for CPMS-30V to a 9 for 154cm? or an 8 for AUS-8?

Did they Rc each blade? Softer is always tougher.

Did they sharpen? or use factory edge? Hard to beat a Spyderco factory edge.

How did they measure ergos, by what they like? My opinion of ergos is certainly different. I don't want to knock anybody's opinion, but it is still someone's opinion.

It was a nice subjective test. Nothing more. Enjoy it for what it was.

sal
 
I side with Sal on this one... I mean...The CRKT the winner? Please... I own several of them, and for what you pay for, they are fine... But the best knife out of all of those tested? I think not. :yawn:
 
Here is a lesson I learned in my previous career as an automotive journalist: you can create any pseudo-objective result that you like, just by choosing carefully the categories that you use to score points.

Example:
we are comparing a Jeep Wrangler and a Ferrari Testarossa


Case 1:

Acceleration/top speed
Cornering
Braking
Overall handling
Cargo capacity
Cost/value for money

Ferrari scores 10, 10, 10, 10, 2, 3, a total of 45 points
Jeep scores 4, 4, 7, 5, 7, 8, a total of 35 points

Case 2:

Performance
Fuel consumption
Service costs
Cargo capacity
Off-road capability
Cost/Value for money


Ferrari scores 10, 4, 2, 2, 0, 3, a total of 21 points
Jeep scores 4, 8, 7, 7, 10, 8, a total of 44 points




NOW, WHICH CAR IS BETTER??????????????

(but, each case looks objective by itself, doesn't it?)
 
Exactly. :)

Pick the right knife for the right task, and you'll always be good-to-go.

It's about making sure that you're compromising in the right direction - to benefit you - when you select for the performance of the knife that you are going to carry.

Make sure that whatever knife you choose fits your task, and it will always be "the best."

:)
 
as best I can tell from the posts on the emerson board, EE just wanted to show a pic of a broken 910, the 'replacement' for the 97x series, next to an unbroken Commander.
 
hardheart said:
as best I can tell from the posts on the emerson board, EE just wanted to show a pic of a broken 910, the 'replacement' for the 97x series, next to an unbroken Commander.
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Yes, I read it, and Ernie isn't bashing Spyderco. We are just saying the test is unfair to the Spyderco becuase why would someone try to pry with a knife that wasn't designed to be pryed with? It's the test we have issue with. Not Emerson.
-Kevin
 
One thing I agree with Emerson about is his quote on his site about this is, if you market a knife as a "rescue" knife it better hold up.That includes PRYING.

Ya I know its "not the right tool".But the fact is you don't always have the right tool.I have a whole firetruck of "right" tools.But sometimes you repell into a gorge or climb up a highrise with the "right tools' only to find things change from bad to worse or to the totlely unexpected and that right tool isn't around.

Heres an example.I'm off duty at a park,far from my car and other tools.A kid on a swing,swings way up high and jumps off as kids do.He lands at the base of a chainlink fence on a slope.His leg slides under and is caught like in a Chinese finger trap.He's sceaming,bleeding and crying.All I got is a folder. We could not lift the fence enough to pull him out.I pryed open the loop of those thick metal wires that hold the fence to the pole.Not life and death I know,but something had to be done,and a strong tanto point bought with this type of use in mind did it.

Just my 2 cents.If your going to market a rescue/tactical knife you need to understand that it may well have to be used for non cutting chores.

Yes ditto dumbo rat's comments. :)
 
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