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Abso - freakin - lutely!
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A Busse Combat WSK
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I’m so glad that hanging out around here has taught me to be a giver.mymindisamob said:Abso - freakin - lutely!
As soon as I order the new one we can negotiate on my current SFNO.
Yeah right.
No mercy at the trough!
Well, niceness and a bit of mercy at the trough.
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Talk to ya about that in......what.........5-6 years!djolney said:
I'm gonna go wait now.:jerkit:
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Hey, I know who you are. You're the International INFI coach, aren't you?:thumbup:djolney said:
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i'd rather not see a wsk from busse, if only because its someone elses design.
and if they did it - i'd want much, much higher grinds. theres little to now reason to have that much full spine thickness with infi. personally i dont think theres that much reason to have that much full spine thickness with 5160, but then i've never personally used one.
and if they did it - i'd want much, much higher grinds. theres little to now reason to have that much full spine thickness with infi. personally i dont think theres that much reason to have that much full spine thickness with 5160, but then i've never personally used one.
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I dunno, have to look into this a little more. The movie was pretty cool and I like the blade that was in the movie. Anyone know where you can get better pics of Roger's verison. The ones I googled weren't very good? Is he still making this knife? I've seen the TOPs verison and it's just way over the top (lol). More of a hatchet, than a knife.
Ya I wouldn't mind seeing something like it from Jerry but as it was already said here... not Jerry's idea so the chances of it coming up for sale would be slim to none. Although.... you never know!
Ya I wouldn't mind seeing something like it from Jerry but as it was already said here... not Jerry's idea so the chances of it coming up for sale would be slim to none. Although.... you never know!
I can't comment on the performance of the knife but could Dave Beck (or whoever made the knife for the movie) have possibly picked a more ridiculous, unrealistic, WWF fantasyland piece of crap than The Hunted in which to showcase his knife?!?
This movie is just as Peter Pan goofball as The Scorpion King, Commando, and all 3 Rambo movies, but the difference is that The Hunted was touted in the knife magazine articles (puff pieces!) as a realistic portayal of wilderness survival, which it absolutely was not. IIRC it was the cover story in Blade Magazine, and there was not one negative thing to say about the movie (or the knife). Having seen the movie based on that glowing review, I was pretty upset that I had been duped by the article into WASTING $7.50 and ~2 hours of my life. Not to mention that I, a hunter, was suckered into contributing to some screenwriter, his cohorts and his investors who are obviously anti-hunting and anti-HUNTER. Thanks a pantload, BLADE. The entire movie serves as an excellent example of how NOT to soldier, how NOT to hunt, how NOT to act socially, how NOT to act out your anti-hunting aggression, how NOT to survive in the wild, how NOT to treat your family, how NOT to conduct a fugitive search, and how NOT to successfully escape as a fugitive. Did I miss anything? What a dogsqueeze.
Bottom line: I'll probably never know if the WSK is any good or not. It may have its uses but it looks as Peter Pan as the movie it was in and it looks to me like form came before function when it was designed.
Besides, Jerry is NOT a me-too guy. He's not one for going around copying other maker's designs--other makers copy HIS designs.
BTW, just a tip: If you're chasing a fugitive (and especially if you're the one directing the search), you don't take a time out to show off your caveman skills by foraging the woods for just the right size & shape piece of flint or obsidian, then flintknap it into a knife--when you could have (and should have) been carrying a knife, a SAK or multitool, a survival kit, and everything else you need before you went on the search in the first place. What does it say about a professional survivalist and survival instructor, most of whom always preach about being prepared ("the best knife is the one you have on you", etc.), to be going around without a gun OR a sharp bladed object of any sort when he knows he's on call in case of an escape?
And tip #2: If you're the fugitive, and you're being pursued closely, you won't be one for long if you take a 4 hour (at least!) time out to scrounge for the right piece of scrap metal, build a charcoal forge, forge a blade, put a primary grind on it, sharpen it, quench it, and make a handle for it, that is unless you happen to be chased by the @$$-hat in tip #1 above, in which case your pursuer is at least as big an idiot as you are, putting your chances of escape back up to 50/50.
Other than that I like the WSK.
This movie is just as Peter Pan goofball as The Scorpion King, Commando, and all 3 Rambo movies, but the difference is that The Hunted was touted in the knife magazine articles (puff pieces!) as a realistic portayal of wilderness survival, which it absolutely was not. IIRC it was the cover story in Blade Magazine, and there was not one negative thing to say about the movie (or the knife). Having seen the movie based on that glowing review, I was pretty upset that I had been duped by the article into WASTING $7.50 and ~2 hours of my life. Not to mention that I, a hunter, was suckered into contributing to some screenwriter, his cohorts and his investors who are obviously anti-hunting and anti-HUNTER. Thanks a pantload, BLADE. The entire movie serves as an excellent example of how NOT to soldier, how NOT to hunt, how NOT to act socially, how NOT to act out your anti-hunting aggression, how NOT to survive in the wild, how NOT to treat your family, how NOT to conduct a fugitive search, and how NOT to successfully escape as a fugitive. Did I miss anything? What a dogsqueeze.
Bottom line: I'll probably never know if the WSK is any good or not. It may have its uses but it looks as Peter Pan as the movie it was in and it looks to me like form came before function when it was designed.
Besides, Jerry is NOT a me-too guy. He's not one for going around copying other maker's designs--other makers copy HIS designs.
BTW, just a tip: If you're chasing a fugitive (and especially if you're the one directing the search), you don't take a time out to show off your caveman skills by foraging the woods for just the right size & shape piece of flint or obsidian, then flintknap it into a knife--when you could have (and should have) been carrying a knife, a SAK or multitool, a survival kit, and everything else you need before you went on the search in the first place. What does it say about a professional survivalist and survival instructor, most of whom always preach about being prepared ("the best knife is the one you have on you", etc.), to be going around without a gun OR a sharp bladed object of any sort when he knows he's on call in case of an escape?
And tip #2: If you're the fugitive, and you're being pursued closely, you won't be one for long if you take a 4 hour (at least!) time out to scrounge for the right piece of scrap metal, build a charcoal forge, forge a blade, put a primary grind on it, sharpen it, quench it, and make a handle for it, that is unless you happen to be chased by the @$$-hat in tip #1 above, in which case your pursuer is at least as big an idiot as you are, putting your chances of escape back up to 50/50.
Other than that I like the WSK.
In response to the above, The Hunted is a movie, and in my opinion a decent one. I do not look to the entertainment world for accuracy but rather just that, entertainment.
I was not promoting (never mind suggesting) that Jerry copy the WSK. I just wondered how the forumites here thought of the idea of a WSK style knife with the Busse Combat logo on it. I did not think starting this thread would cause a problem but I can see how it has.
Don't blame Dave Beck, it was Tom Brown who did the movie work.
I agree, the WSK is unconventional, but that may be why it appeals to me. I cannot say why exactly, but I just like it.
I was not promoting (never mind suggesting) that Jerry copy the WSK. I just wondered how the forumites here thought of the idea of a WSK style knife with the Busse Combat logo on it. I did not think starting this thread would cause a problem but I can see how it has.
Don't blame Dave Beck, it was Tom Brown who did the movie work.
I agree, the WSK is unconventional, but that may be why it appeals to me. I cannot say why exactly, but I just like it.
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Peter, I'm sorry but I highly doubt that Jerry will ever make a knife like this. And even if he wants to, I'm sure it would at least a couple years until he could release it. There are a couple of makers that do similar stuff. Take a look at:
http://www.jenseneliteblades.com/
He makes something similar, and there is one other, Roger Linger:
http://riflestocks.tripod.com/pics41.html
homepage: http://riflestocks.tripod.com/
[to go to his knives page, scroll down and click on the "Hand Made Knives Made By Me" link]
If you need anything else, email me.
http://www.jenseneliteblades.com/
He makes something similar, and there is one other, Roger Linger:
http://riflestocks.tripod.com/pics41.html
homepage: http://riflestocks.tripod.com/
[to go to his knives page, scroll down and click on the "Hand Made Knives Made By Me" link]
If you need anything else, email me.
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Knifemaker Jürgen Schanz
has made a WSK as a custom order, he would probably make more by request.
He doesnt have INFI, however.
This one is D2: I stole the pic from another thread
has made a WSK as a custom order, he would probably make more by request.
He doesnt have INFI, however.
This one is D2: I stole the pic from another thread
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I too am not interested in having a WSK made by Jerry. Only because of the previously stated that Jerry does not copy others designs. I am a fan of Dave Beck and his W.S.K. knife design. I talked to him and tried to get a order in for one before he quit, I think it was a 6 month wait at the time, but it was a no-go and I understood. Tom Brown and his "tracker" knife can go. . . . Well, I'll just say I don't agree with Tom Brown's methods for acquiring glory with someone elses design and then denying that person's involvement in some coversations and seriously downplaying that person's involvement in other conversations. I guess fame goes to some peoples heads and they don't care who they step on to keep it.
Rant Off.
I will say that I don't understand why Jerry doesn't put sawteeth on any of his models. Not serations but sawteeth. They seem like they could be very benificial in some cases. I am not complaining. Jerry is the designer/artist and he know's what he's doing. I know slim to nothing about making/designing knives.
Rant Off.
I will say that I don't understand why Jerry doesn't put sawteeth on any of his models. Not serations but sawteeth. They seem like they could be very benificial in some cases. I am not complaining. Jerry is the designer/artist and he know's what he's doing. I know slim to nothing about making/designing knives.
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X-Head said:I can't comment on the performance of the knife but could Dave Beck (or whoever made the knife for the movie) have possibly picked a more ridiculous, unrealistic, WWF fantasyland piece of crap than The Hunted in which to showcase his knife?!?
This movie is just as Peter Pan goofball as The Scorpion King, Commando, and all 3 Rambo movies, but the difference is that The Hunted was touted in the knife magazine articles (puff pieces!) as a realistic portayal of wilderness survival, which it absolutely was not. IIRC it was the cover story in Blade Magazine, and there was not one negative thing to say about the movie (or the knife). Having seen the movie based on that glowing review, I was pretty upset that I had been duped by the article into WASTING $7.50 and ~2 hours of my life. Not to mention that I, a hunter, was suckered into contributing to some screenwriter, his cohorts and his investors who are obviously anti-hunting and anti-HUNTER. Thanks a pantload, BLADE. The entire movie serves as an excellent example of how NOT to soldier, how NOT to hunt, how NOT to act socially, how NOT to act out your anti-hunting aggression, how NOT to survive in the wild, how NOT to treat your family, how NOT to conduct a fugitive search, and how NOT to successfully escape as a fugitive. Did I miss anything? What a dogsqueeze.
Bottom line: I'll probably never know if the WSK is any good or not. It may have its uses but it looks as Peter Pan as the movie it was in and it looks to me like form came before function when it was designed.
Besides, Jerry is NOT a me-too guy. He's not one for going around copying other maker's designs--other makers copy HIS designs.
BTW, just a tip: If you're chasing a fugitive (and especially if you're the one directing the search), you don't take a time out to show off your caveman skills by foraging the woods for just the right size & shape piece of flint or obsidian, then flintknap it into a knife--when you could have (and should have) been carrying a knife, a SAK or multitool, a survival kit, and everything else you need before you went on the search in the first place. What does it say about a professional survivalist and survival instructor, most of whom always preach about being prepared ("the best knife is the one you have on you", etc.), to be going around without a gun OR a sharp bladed object of any sort when he knows he's on call in case of an escape?
And tip #2: If you're the fugitive, and you're being pursued closely, you won't be one for long if you take a 4 hour (at least!) time out to scrounge for the right piece of scrap metal, build a charcoal forge, forge a blade, put a primary grind on it, sharpen it, quench it, and make a handle for it, that is unless you happen to be chased by the @$$-hat in tip #1 above, in which case your pursuer is at least as big an idiot as you are, putting your chances of escape back up to 50/50.
Other than that I like the WSK.
And how come nobody ever just shoots Bond after they capture him?
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C'mon Xhead
You're among friends. Tell us what you REALLY thought of the movie. LOL
So far, it seems a good thing I've never seen it and a better thing that there was no money outlay.
Rob
You're among friends. Tell us what you REALLY thought of the movie. LOL
So far, it seems a good thing I've never seen it and a better thing that there was no money outlay.
Rob
Peter, I understand where you're coming from. I watch First Blood every once in a blue moon just purely for the entertainment value too. And I could have enjoyed The Hunted a lot more if I didn't have any unrealistic expectations about what this movie IS and what it ISN'T that I got from reading that misinforming article.
Although I still would have had a problem with the picture this movie paints of hunters to the movie goers who are unfamiliar with hunters or hunting--that there's an epidemic in America of unscrupulous and unsportsmanlike hunters who illegally hunt using night vision & thermal scopes (at night, obviously, which is also illegal--and unsafe, since it's much harder to verify what you're shooting at.
BTW, anyone else notice when Del Torro throws the knife at the tree during training? He's holding it by the tip, between his thumb and forefinger, throwing it overhanded. The next shot shows the knife flying straight at the tree, tip first, like an arrow--instead of flipping pommel over tip like it would normally do in real life. The producers had to ignore two or three laws of physics to come up with that one...not to mention the sonic boom during the knife's flight, and the thud when it hit the tree that sounded more like an explosion.
Then there was the SF A-Team mission in Bosnia(?) IIRC, where the whole team is sent on the mission, but once they get to the enemy's HQ, the whole rest of the team sits around in a tight cluster and watches while the CO sends in Bad-@$$ Aaron, the Special Forces Lone Ranger, the Army of One, to carry out the mission all by himself (because he's such a bad-@$$, you understand), with no assistance or teamwork from anyone else.
I was really surprised that this movie didn't win an Oscar for Best Fairytale. The only parts missing were slaying the dragon and rescuing the princess.
My $.02. Sorry if I rained on anyone's parade. Hope I didn't stray too far off topic.
Although I still would have had a problem with the picture this movie paints of hunters to the movie goers who are unfamiliar with hunters or hunting--that there's an epidemic in America of unscrupulous and unsportsmanlike hunters who illegally hunt using night vision & thermal scopes (at night, obviously, which is also illegal--and unsafe, since it's much harder to verify what you're shooting at.
BTW, anyone else notice when Del Torro throws the knife at the tree during training? He's holding it by the tip, between his thumb and forefinger, throwing it overhanded. The next shot shows the knife flying straight at the tree, tip first, like an arrow--instead of flipping pommel over tip like it would normally do in real life. The producers had to ignore two or three laws of physics to come up with that one...not to mention the sonic boom during the knife's flight, and the thud when it hit the tree that sounded more like an explosion.
Then there was the SF A-Team mission in Bosnia(?) IIRC, where the whole team is sent on the mission, but once they get to the enemy's HQ, the whole rest of the team sits around in a tight cluster and watches while the CO sends in Bad-@$$ Aaron, the Special Forces Lone Ranger, the Army of One, to carry out the mission all by himself (because he's such a bad-@$$, you understand), with no assistance or teamwork from anyone else.
I was really surprised that this movie didn't win an Oscar for Best Fairytale. The only parts missing were slaying the dragon and rescuing the princess.
My $.02. Sorry if I rained on anyone's parade. Hope I didn't stray too far off topic.
Peter La said:
There's no problem. You started this thread offering your opinion on a particular subject and I offered mine, as well as others offering theirs. That's the forum working exactly as it was intended. No one here has any expectation that everyone is going to always agree with them. Where there is no variety of opinions there is usually stagnant, inbred thought (and communism).
Relax. As long as people are arguing here, all is well.
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Walking Man said:
i dunno about the WSK clone, but the survival tool (EST-9), that's one ugly in a good way variant. me likey. the J.U.S.T is very nice too.
i'm sure busse doesn't need to copy anyone, but their own interpretation or original design in this genre would be fantastic. USA grown tools
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