a canoein' khuk?

and why would a BGRS be better than, say, a Siru? Or even an AK?

My 15" Siru seems to be quite a good all-arounder that I might be tempted to take with me on such a trip.
 
Lion's Roar said:
I'm with Kis on this one. Is it wise to go alone?
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What's the difference in going alone or going on Vision Quest for four days?
Just let someone know where you are going.
The route you are taking and the day to expect you back and PANIC if you are not.
I think it would be a memorial trip and one I would love too take alone if I were young and in good shape.:D :cool: :D
 
If you can afford it, you might consider packing one of the new satellite Personal Locator Beacons. If you get stuck some place and can't get home or get help, just flip the switch and you'll have a rescue just about anywhere in a matter of hours. check out:

www.equipped.com

they should have some good reviews and tips on buying, if you so chose.

Food for thought that might keep you from becoming food for the bears! :D

Nam
 
and why would a BGRS be better than, say, a Siru? Or even an AK?

My 15" Siru seems to be quite a good all-arounder that I might be tempted to take with me on such a trip.>>>>

A BGR is going to weigh almost two pounds. A 15" sirup can weigh 20 oz, little more, little less.




munk
 
Yvsa, you have a point. If the Spirit leads him that way, I understand.

I always believed that when you were in the circle, nothing could happen to you. I don't worry about snakes when I go to water either, but I'm careful what site I use.

Seems a little different with the rapids involved. I guess if he is following his vision, everything will work out.

How do you waterproof a khuk?
 
Lion's Roar said:
How do you waterproof a khuk?
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Probably the best way would be too wax it with several coats of a good paste wax letting them dry hard between coats. Makes it a bear to get off though.
Trouble is it wouldn't last long at all.:grumpy:

Actually methinks the best thing is to just not worry about it.:eek: :D Any problems can be fixed when you return home too where one worries about such things.
Did you notice the patina on the khuk the little kid is holding in the pic Uncle Bill posted?
I'd just about bet my bottom dollar that there is some rust on it.

I don't believe I'll ever forget Uncle Bill's post when asked about the appearance of the khuks in Nepal and what they looked like. His answer?

"Rusty."

:D

In reality I do think we worry way too much about any corrosion on our khuks but that's a carry over from taking care of smaller knives and guns I think.
I have wondered what it would be like to put an unprotected well sharpened villager out in the backyard weather for a year or so but I just can't bring myself too do it.
The closest I have came was putting an unprotected village Chiruwa AK in its scabbard in the back of the Dodge for a couple of years or so.
Surprisingly it had very little rust on it and the horn slabs are still intact.:eek: :D
It is still as sharp as the day I put it there.:cool:
 
Actually, a 20" Sirupati would probably do nicely. I've one nice one I keep inside and one pathetic blem that was probably made by a kami with one unadulturated hell of a hangover!!! that I keep behind the seat of the truck.
I mean it is 'off' on everything!!! But it does the donkey work and keeps going. Tougher than a Missouri mule and about as pretty.
 
The Spirit leads people- and people have accidents.

Still, I was spared a lot of snake bite when I wandered the Mojave.

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Rusty, please explain Reid as Nevada's Senator? I suspect he'd hate your sirupati, and my BGR.
>>>>>>

It's been so long since I've camped alone I'd be afraid.


munk
 
"So, what do y'all recommend?"


What feels good to you. Your life may depend on it. :)
 
Hey- remember the Carbine discussion? HE's gonna need a shortie shotgun or a carbine. They've got some nice SS shotguns. Or get Mossberg's military pump- parkerized, rabbit ears, and 9 shot.


munk
 
Two quick comments.
First, I never-ever hike/canoe/backpack/motorcycle with another person. The whole purpose is to get away - if you want to hang out with people, go to the mall.

Second, I wouldn't carry any knife heavier than an Opinel. The Opinel has always been my outdoors knife, but I'm switching to a Hunter's Scalpel from AG Russell in order to save weight. The Opinel has been able to perform any cutting task I've ever needed a knife for in the wilderness. I'm confident that the Hunter's Scalpel will too.

Yeah, I know it doesn't matter as much since you'll be on a river trip...

Good Luck and have a good trip!
-Bob
 
Solo is good, so long as your skills are up to it. "Insurance" is good too, whether it be a khuk, GPS, locator beacon, etc. I'm not such a huge fan of the technological marvels over common sense and ingenuity. But the Utah guy stuck under a rock in Canyonlands is an instructive tale. You remember - the guy who spent two days dulling his cheap multi-tool before using it to amputate his arm. The lessons I take from it - trip planning is vital (he was kinda dumb) but you take whatever options are available.

As far as trip knives -

If you're a gorilla and want a knife to match, 20" AK or GRS fits the bill. Either is really an ax with some growth issues. Foxy's Folly is nice, but eccentric, in this category. I don't think anyone has tested one enough to see how it matches the AK or GRS - I've used mine, but don't have the arms for a good test.

YCS is tailor-made for your trip. A good, all-round package, though scaring one up might be a chore.

Down into the more regular duty khuks - BGRS is at the beefy end. 18" AK is in the middle. 18" WWII is light, quick and an all-round champ. These are not massive log splitters, and you'll have a chore going through solid wood much more than 6" in diameter. With some practice, they will easily chew through smaller snags in a few chops. They will also probably eat a canoe of any material, so make sure you have good footing and control if you chop mid-river!!! Personally, I prefer thinner khuks. "Thin" is still much thicker than just about any knife on the market, it makes weight distribution better, and cuts down on binding.

Given the choice, I would take my 18" WWII followed by the 18" AK on a similar trip. If I wanted a bonfire every night, I'd throw in a pack saw.
 
Tohatchi NM said:
Down into the more regular duty khuks - BGRS is at the beefy end. 18" AK is in the middle. 18" WWII is light, quick and an all-round champ.
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I guess this is a good example that all khuks in any given category are all different. My 18"AK is a dui/tin? chiarra beast while my BGRS is a nice somewhat thin, for a khuk, all around chopper that's lighter in weight and easier too carry.
 
I'm not even leaving my home town of Wasilla for the trip. (Or at least the suburbs thereof) The trip is gonna be along a small stretch of the Little Susitna....(and it lives up to it's name) It really is about as mild and safe as a trip could be, as long as one is reasonably prepared, and doesn't suffer from an extreme case of cranial rectal inversion.

As far as the khuks- The Chiruwa AK in about a 17 inch length looks like a pretty solid choice from what I was able to study last night. I rather like the unbreakable, unbendable mention on that one. I uhmmm...couldn't find the BGRS. The WWII looks very nice, but for something that's primary duty is chopping, I'd feel a little better with something a little heavier. I thought about my 18 inch Sirupati, but....I'm having some issues with it that I haven't had the courage to address in the forum here quite yet.

Thanks very much for all the input!
 
Runs With Scissors said:
As far as the khuks- The Chiruwa AK in about a 17 inch length looks like a pretty solid choice from what I was able to study last night. I rather like the unbreakable, unbendable mention on that one. I uhmmm...couldn't find the BGRS. The WWII looks very nice, but for something that's primary duty is chopping, I'd feel a little better with something a little heavier. I thought about my 18 inch Sirupati, but....I'm having some issues with it that I haven't had the courage to address in the forum here quite yet.

Thanks very much for all the input!
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Look here: Ganga Ram Special.

I just missed a BGRS in today's feeding frenzy. I have a 17" AK villager that I've used quite a bit, and a chiruwa AK villager that I haven't really beat on. They are both light enough that I can handle them (~24 oz) and long enough to have some reach. They both chop well on smaller stuff, and I prefer a saw on anything thicker than around 6" if I have a lot of work to do. I think an 18" AK or a chiruwa AK would fit the bill.

Choosing a new khuk is delightful agony. :D

Jeremy
 
Runs With Scissors said:
As far as the khuks- The Chiruwa AK in about a 17 inch length looks like a pretty solid choice from what I was able to study last night. I rather like the unbreakable, unbendable mention on that one. I uhmmm...couldn't find the BGRS. The WWII looks very nice, but for something that's primary duty is chopping, I'd feel a little better with something a little heavier. I thought about my 18 inch Sirupati, but....I'm having some issues with it that I haven't had the courage to address in the forum here quite yet.

Thanks very much for all the input!
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If you like the chiruwa design, then may i humbly suggest my personal fav the AK bowie. It chops pretty well, every bit as well as one might need for a fire or shelter (we're not building log cabins here;)). It comes in right around 3/8" thick so it's dang near unbreakable. It'll stab as well as chop and the end is fully hardened so that you can use it for a hammer. Also (something i just thought about) it has a lanyard hole at the bottom so you could lash it to your arm if you needed to do any mid-stream chopping. Not the prettiest khuk-like object out there, but i've come back to mine time after time after time.
Chiruwa AK is a good choice too, nonetheless;)

Jake
 
Yvsa said:
I guess this is a good example that all khuks in any given category are all different. My 18"AK is a dui/tin? chiarra beast while my BGRS is a nice somewhat thin, for a khuk, all around chopper that's lighter in weight and easier too carry.
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Yep. My BGRS is a beast - shorter yet heavier than a thin 18" Bura AK, and perhaps the thickest khuk I own, with the probable exception of the Foxy. Depends on the kami, the day, and the leaf spring, which is why everyone should have at least a dozen to choose from!!! :D

Keep in mind - if you order direct, it's worth specifying what you want - thinner or thicker, lighter or heavier, so Yangdu can pick out a good 'un. Or you could take the old timer-strategy of picking up the blem that fits best.

Curious to hear what the siru issue is. I think just about everything has been through here - though when I say that something new always pops up!
 
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