A Color Case Hardened Busse?

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I don't know if it's even possible, but has anyone tried to color case harden a Busse blade? With black checkered micarta, it'd be a perfect match for a Colt SAA.
Your thoughts or experiences...
"Bloody Bill"
 
it sure would look purdy. For some reason I like having knives that match guns. Infi is supposed to be a carbon steel, and I think that carbon steel can be case hardened.........just make sure that some one else tries it first, then you don't ruin one of your knives. It might undue the heat treat that Busse puts on their knives, which is one of the reasons that any steel is tough. too much heat= ruined heat treat.
 
I have no idea what color case hardening is, but if it involves the heat treatment then I can almost gaurentee that the answer is no. anything that would change the heat treating protocol for infi would almost surely degrade its heat treat quality.

there have been a few busse's that have had rainbow decarb finishes though... most noticeably the rainbow internal affair and the fillet knife that was cut down from a NICK.
 
I remember a couple of Factory knives the looked like Case Hardened knives five ir six years ago, but that is not what they were called, anyone else remember anything like this?
 
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lol... thats not at all what you were looking for...

I stand that anything that would disturb the heat treatment on a busse probably was not done by the factory. I have no idea what exactly is involved with case hardening though. I had to google it just to get a brief description of it.
 
case hardening would be a poor choice for a blade. only the outer layer is hardened, so after a few sharpenings you would have a useless soft edge.
 
Color case hardening was/is a 19th century protective metal surface treatment typically used on Colt"s and Winchesters that left a swirled decorative pattern of blues, browns, plum, reds, greens, and yellows - sort of like oil on water on a sunny day. Colt was most famous for its colorful bone charcoal case treatment and there are a few masters out there today that can match Colt's best.
Just curious if the folks at Busse have tried it on their custom blades.
 
I've done Color Case hardening.
Rough description of classic CC hardening process:

Block the part up so it doesn't warp (you'll see why later).
Pack part in charcoal (wood and bone charcoal, sometimes fish bits and leather scraps are included). Pack part, surrounded by the charcoal, etc. reasonably tight into a steel box.
Heat box to bright red for extended time (The longer the soak, the deeper the increase in carbon at the surface will penetrate--within limits).

Dump (Spill) the whole thing into water (preferably aerated). Sometimes the old timers would run a very thin layer of oil on the surface of the water.

This process is traditionally used for low-carbon parts. The carbon increases to hardenable levels on the surface while leaving the interior soft.
Of course, Infi is already a carbon steel. I suspect the shock of water quench would very likely crack the part a lot of the time--certainly warp it (thus the blocking ahead of time).
If it survived, you'd have to temper infi afterward, which would abate the colors somewhat--probably a lot (depending upon the temp.)

Not saying it can't be done. Just risky to the steel, and of dubious performance benefit compared with the factory HT--but you could try it and see what happens-- If you work out the kinks, maybe you'd have the latest greatest thing!
 
OK, maybe not CCH. How about fire-blueing?

How about a fire-blued blade with a CCH handle? Maybe in a honkin-big bowie blade - like a decent-gripped Battle Rat.
 
well apperently that NICK fillet knife is nearly impossible to find. I had to spell it "filet NICK" for the search engine to find even these pictures... I know there was a better one put up by... I thought it was jerry.... but anyways, these are the ones I could find

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from KnifeAddictAK
 
That was Blade 2005, right? I had forgotten about the rainbow NICK variant. That looks like my ZTSH in the middle there.

Rick
 
Wow, I have never heard of a rainbow NICK filet knife..
Looks like a highly modified thin NICK...
I need to have one......
 
That was Blade 2005, right? I had forgotten about the rainbow NICK variant. That looks like my ZTSH in the middle there.

Rick

Yup Blade 2005, I got a couple off that table, those Piano Keys' stayed in that configuration for about a minute.


I think the fillet knife was the last knife left on the table.
 
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