A Couple Just For Fun..

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I thought I'd have a little fun today and bang out a couple different blades

One is a ummm, maybe a 11" double edged, integral turkey carver and the other is a ummm cleaver with attitude.

The double edged one is made from a prybar and the cleaver is from a chunk of leaf spring.

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I don't think I'm going to do a whole lot to it; I'm thinking very little if any grinding on the tang, a thong hole and a couple of long oak scales that would leave about 3/4" of a ricasso. The long scales will allow choking up on it and using it like a regular cleaver. Maybe a touch of brass or SS will look good on it too.. Will see. Hmm, maybe harden the end of the tang and put a bottle opener on it... :)

I actually videotaped the whole process of drawing out that piece of steel and I'm just editing it at the moment. and will probably post it after I speed it up so it's a reasonable length.
 
Both look nice! The cleaver looks like a roman one, and the double edged thing somewhat remind me germanic of viking thrusting spears.
 
Neat video! I need a nap after watching you break down that thick stock by hand!

Thanks for sharing! -Matt-
 
Brave man forging in shorts :eek: Pretty cool. Like the speed demon forging!
 
I was wearing thongs as well and I had to put socks on cause my toes were getting burned by scale.
 
I'm sitting here with a big grin on my face! How long have you been forging? You've discovered the reason I like hand forging so much. It really is fun and down right entertaining!

I first watched the edited, sped up video this morning and had a good chuckle as well. Sounds like various size jackhammers.

I started forging around November last year.
 
That cleaver is sick!

You are killing your self swinging that big ass hammer all choked up on the handle like that, doing probably close to 75% more work that you have to.
 
For me, the big hammer smushes the metal better when big movement is needed. Being as inexperienced as I am, choking up on it allows me more accuracy with that particular hammer and an errant blow doesn't have that great of an 'influence' on my wrist, which would be a bad thing. Plus, the further away my hand is from the 8 pounds the harder my wrist has to work, also not good.

Also, I realized that my anvil is about 6" too high the way I set it up so I'm going to build a proper stand for it this weekend out of 2x8's and 2x6's.
 
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I can tell you right now that a hammer more than half that size IE 3 pounds, with a proper swing will move

1-the same amount of material
2-not be nearly so tiring
3-not be any more stressful to your wrist
4-most likely will be less stressful to your wrist, as a proper swing allows flex in the hand and fingers not the wrist, and if there is an errant blow it will not even effect your wrist.

How you are swinging now will most certainly destroy your elbow, watching your video is almost painful to mine! Your elbow is way out in space, and the way you swing not allowing your hand or wrist to flex transmits all the shock right up to that joint and a little to your shoulder joint. watch the video again, when the hammer impacts the steel your forearm and elbow is shocked because of the momentum. With your death grip on the hammer also is transmitting ALOT of shock into your wrist as well as your forearm and elbow, even though you might not feel it yet, you will in a couple months (ask me how I know :)).

My two measly cents, get yourself a hammer that MUCH smaller, 2 pounds or 3 pounds at most, grab it at the end of the handle or only slightly forward of the end, keep your elbow tighter to your side. When you raise the hammer keep a light-but-tight grip with your index finger and thumb, but allow your middle ring and pinky fingers to open a little bit which will cushion your arm and wrist on the top end of your swing. When you come down close your middle ring and pinky fingers so your whole hand has that light-but-tight grip and guide the hammer in sort of a "throw" motion into the steel. All you are doing it picking the hammer up and accelerating and guiding it to it's target, you do not have to force it like you do now. A hammer is a tool, let the tool do the work so you don't have to. It might take a bit more practice to gain accuracy for heavy blows, but hey if it was easy everyone would do it. The way you swing now is a bad habit that should be gotten away from early to prevent long term damage. I have only been swinging a hammer 7 years, not just for blades either where it's a couple hours a day to forge out a blade or two, I am talking 7-8 hours of straight production forging in an architectural ironworks shop without the use of a powerhammer. If I did not break my bad habits swinging a hammer early like I was taught on I probably would be doing only stock removal now if you catch my drift.

69, sorry to hijack, I just don't want to see you hurt yourself because that is some nice forging, and I would like to see you do it a little easier for a long long time.
 
Thanks for your input, Sam. I had read about the technique before but never really caught the point of it until I read this little bit:

When you raise the hammer keep a light-but-tight grip with your index finger and thumb, but allow your middle ring and pinky fingers to open a little bit which will cushion your arm and wrist on the top end of your swing.

I will definitely be trying that on the weekend. I do have 3# and 4# hammers so I will see what I can do with those.
 
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