A Couple of CPM 3V Questions

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I saw on Crucible's fact sheets that 3V has a similar grindability to D2. Does grindability translate to sharpen-ability. By that I mean will my ability to put an edge back on a finished 3V knife be roughly equivalent to my ability to resharpen a D2 knife? And secondly, I didn't see any corrosion testing for 3V. Would it benefit from a coating of some sort? Any input will be appreciated.

Jack
 
Donovan: I'm just getting started with the 3V-have only made one "special" blade from it, and, I havn't done a similar blade in my pet A2, so, it's hard to compare right now. However, I found nothing difficult about this steel, either in the pre-heat treat grinding, or the post-heat treat grinding. One of the advantages of the CPM alloys is the very fine distribution and size of the carbides. This is touted to contribute to relative ease of grinding hardened material-a big advantage to users of tool bits made from the CPM alloys. Certainly, the carbides in CPM3V are finer and better distributed than those in D2.
As to coatings, this steel should be about as stain resistant as A2, so, coatings are certainly an option. I powder coated the one blade I have made so far, and particularly liked not being concerned about the 400F cure temp of the coating-3V tempers at 975F, so, this heat was utterly inconsequential.

Ed Schott visited my shop tonight with his first 3V "test" blade, and we beat the %#$^@&^## out of it. He had slammed it into his driveway, and I whacked it hard on my vise jaws (hardened). I did mash the edge some, but, no major chipping or blade failure. What was most interesting is that we were able to bend the Rc60 blade to about 30 degrees (no pipes-just hand pressure). it actually took a small set, and did not snap. This was fantastic to me. It means that this steel will take a real beating. Ed is going to really go at it, and, I'm sure we'll hear from him on the bend to failure test.
So far, it doesn't appear that this steel will get quite as scary sharp as A2, but, maybe I'm just trying to limit my expectations. When I have made some KOZUKAS and KWAIKENS from this stuff, I'll know better. I believe this will be a fine steel for working knives.

RJ Martin
 
Well I tried to bend to failure but at 120 degrees and 150 foot pounds I stopped as I knew
it was going to be a big snap.
I didn’t want a small steel explosion in my shop.
go here to see the blade.
www.javanet.com/~edschott/3vtest.htm
blade hardness 60RC
1.5” in the vice and 2” in the bending clamp.
blade length 11 3/4”
width 1.5”
you cant see it in the pic but it is a srait clip point.
ED

[This message has been edited by Edward R Schott (edited 27 April 1999).]
 
Thanks Ed and RJ. While I've got your attention let me ask you one more question. Rob Simonich told me the 3V he received was between 5/32" and 3/16". What would you consider the maximum reasonable length to be for a "chopper" style blade at that dimension? I'm talking hard use here, although probably no driveway or vise jaw whacking.
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Thanks again.

Jack

Ed-maybe it's just me, but I couldn't get your pic to come up.
 
HI Jack
Java net can be funny so try again it just worked fine.
As for a chopper 3V is so tough that you can go for what you want.
I have a 36" sword IM going to try it in.
ED
 
Ed,
Whenever you get some more 3V in, please post it. I have got to try some of this stuff. I went over the spec sheets on the Crucible Service web pages and I am very excited about this(new to me)steel. I have been using Cruwear for a few years and REALLY like it but after comparing it and 3V; I need say no more.

One problem, does anyone know of a source for heat treating it?

CLWilkins



[This message has been edited by C L Wilkins (edited 27 April 1999).]
 
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