A date which will live in infamy...

namaarie

namaarie

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So, it is Dec. 7, 2004. 63 years after that fateful day that changed everything. On this of all days, it seems appropriate to remember and honor those who have given so much to keep America and the cause of freedom safe. I give my utmost reverance to the generations of defenders gone by and send my smoke to those currently abroad. Certainly it must not be easy to miss Christmas.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but it is important for me to say it anyhow: thanks. Thanks for serving your country and keeping her free. Thanks for helping to liberate the oppressed. Thanks for the bravery which you have so consistantly displayed.

Thank you, my prayers go with you, and smoke upwards.

Namaarie
 
I dont let them forget.
Believe me, THEY try.
I have had people here actually ask me why WE attacked THEM.
they did not walk away from me happy.
 
Go to Pearl Harbor.

See the oil drops still breaking the surface at the Arizona memorial.

Never forget it.


AA
 
Sutcliffe said:
The greatest Generation. Anybody think we are capable of such great things today?
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I would hope that we are not capable of the sneak attack on a country like they did us without a decparation of war, or at least a few warnings.

I sure won't forget.

I wonder what the Japanese tell their school children about Pearl?

I, for one, don't believe that they tried to declare war, but just couldn't get through our State Department like they said in "Tora, Tora, Tora."

Thanks "Danny in Japan"

I will say again: I won't forget.
 
Bill Marsh said:
I wonder what the Japanese tell their school children about Pearl?
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Don't know, but I know Germany spends years teaching kids about the evil their country once perpetrated. I sure hope Japan hasn't forgotten.
 
I will never forget!!My Dad was there when they attacked.Dad's gone now,family still remembers.Also had a relative that was on the Bataan Death March.Few remember or recall Bataan,I do!!
THE DUCK! :cool:
 
None of my relatives were at Pearl on The Day, but my Little League coach was there. Bill Beckman was an ammo passer in a 5" magazine on the Oklahoma. After a busy few minutes, the ship tipped as a loud "thump" was felt and heard. A Chief stuck his head in the space and told them to "Get out!" Bill got out, served to the end of the War, came home, and had thirteen freckle-faced kids. I was with him a lot of hours, and he spent no more than fifteen minutes talking about the War. A good man.
 
Kukri4302 said:
I will never forget!!My Dad was there when they attacked.Dad's gone now,family still remembers.Also had a relative that was on the Bataan Death March.Few remember or recall Bataan,I do!!
THE DUCK! :cool:
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I remember Bataan. I once knew a Master Gunny who survived Bataan and the Chosen Reservoir. He was a nut case. But he had a right to be. He carried a .45 in Vietnam and swore they would never take him alive again.
 
I remember it like yesterday. I had similar feelings when I watched the airliners crashing into the WTC on 9/11 -- another day of infamy.
 
Japanese schoolbooks dont really discuss anything that happened in Japan between 1890 to 1946.
(Maybe one or two pages)
Most Japanese like to pretend that they never actually did anything war-related. They tell people that they were "pulled into war."
(Can you believe that b%llsh$t?)

One of our textbooks had a little reading on the "tragedies of war" It talked about the Nazi concentration camps and the Atomic bombings. You should have heard me go off on that one.

I said "tragedy? The Atomic bombings were Victory!"
 
DannyinJapan said:
I said "tragedy? The Atomic bombings were Victory!"
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I'm not any warhawk zealot, but I couldn't agree more. It's important to learn true history to prevent future mistakes. Nothing irritates me more academically than a class that teaches altered, P.C. history. Talking about social issues that aren't valid at a given time and downplaying the importance of wars. My High School AP U.S. history class's book spent 2 paragraphs on the course of WWII, while it probably spent a half-dozen full chapters on women's issues. Not exaggerating. :barf: I'm not a mysogynist, but that's not accurate history. :mad:

Namaarie
 
Man, they LOVE to talk about the Evil of the Nazis. They dont seem to understand that THEY were the NAZIS. (Aixs powers, anyway)

Ah forget it. What do you expect of people who all have middle- school level emotions.

Honestly, these people arent worth getting upset over, whether or not they remember or acknowledge their own guilt.
Forget about Japanese peopel of tdoay. They are not capable of understanding what it is you guys want them to understand.

(That's how I know it will happen again)

they are already busy at work changing their constituion so they can start declaring war on other countires again....
 
Agreed Danny...

BTW, two things: The history class was American History, not World History, they are different. The other: History is written by the victor...look into the history of the Soviet Union (oops...that's History now too).
 
I was in Pearl Harbor for the 50th anniversary working at the shipyard. On the morning of December 7th 1991 I was at the bottom of drydock one under a submarine. George H.W. Bush was giving a speech 400 yards away.

Walking through Waikiki and seeing all of the vets there for the commemoration that week, it occurred to me that if a man who died in the attack had been brought back to life that day 50 years later, he'd have looked around and assumed that Japan had won.
 
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