A few different stoves

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Recently, I pulled out a number of my stoves and did a little boil time comparison. All of these tests were conducted on the same day in about a 2 hour window. The weather conditions didn’t change too much during the event, allowing me to have a pretty level playing field for the stoves used.


I welcome others to post up their stove boil times/reviews here, too.


General weather conditions for these events: Cloudy, 45°-51° F air temp, winds calm to light steady breeze, and a little light rain towards the end of the session.

Time of day was 08:40 am to about 11:00 am.

I used these 1 liter stainless steel pots for all my initial tests, in an attempt to level the playing field:
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I used the same cold tap water load (16 oz.) for all test. I was unable to measure the temp of the tap water, but by touch/feel it was comparable to the air temp toward the end of the session. I estimate the water temp was in the low- to mid-50° range.

Also, after each boil test, the pots were cooled down with cold tap water, and the pot exteriors were dried. All of the water used was reclaimed in one way or another, with all the boiled water going towards tea and dish washing.

Regarding boil times: Because I was tending to the cats that were outside at the time, and because I was also preparing/conducting other stove tests, not all the boil times are exact. Because I was trying to multitask while conducting the test, I missed the exact moment of boil for a number of the stoves. So, not all boil times are exact. Some boil times stated may be +10 to +20 seconds. Boil times that have a ~ preceding them were caught during multitasking. Boil times without the squggle were caught and are rounded up to the nearest :10 second mark.


OK, here we go.




First up was my Super Cat alcohol stove variation. This stove is made from a Fancy Feast cat food can, and is on a larger cat food can that serves as a stand.

Stove: Super Cat Alcohol Stove variation
Fuel: 1.5oz of denatured alcohol
Wind: Calm
Air Temp: 45°
Pot: 1 liter stainless steel with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: ~12 minutes

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Stove: Markill Hot Shot canister stove
Fuel: Snow Peak Gigapower
Wind: Calm
Air temp: 46°
Pot: 1 liter stainless steel with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: 2 minutes 40 seconds

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Stove: MSR Pocket Rocket canister stove
Fuel: MSR
Wind: Calm
Air Temp: 47°
Pot: 1 liter stainless steel with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: 2 minutes 20 seconds

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Here are the Hot Shot and Pocket Rocket, with the different fuel canisters, for comparison:
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Stove: Jetboil equipped with pot stand
Wind: Light breezes
Air temp: 48°
Pot: 1 liter stainless steel with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: 4 minutes, 15 seconds

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Comments: I was surprised at the poor performance of the Jetboil with pot stand. Typically, canister stoves tend to lag performance-wise as the ambient temp drops, but the other two canister stoves easily out performed the Jetboil. Was it the light winds that affected its performance? Was it the fuel? I do not know. Because this intrigued me, I let the stove cool for a while, and then I conducted a test with the Jetboil pot. I’ll post that up later.
 
Stove: Trangia Spirit burner from Swedish mess kit in a Sterno stand thingie
Fuel: 2 oz denatured alcohol
Wind: Steady light breeze
Air temp: 48°
Pot: 1 liter stainless steel with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: 13 minutes 10 seconds

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Notes: I don’t have a proper universal pot stand for use with the Trangia burner. I decided to try the Spirit burner in this Sterno stove stand that I found at a rummage sale this past summer. The Sterno stand seemed to work OK, but would have probably worked better if I could have positioned the Trangia burner a little closer to the pot.



Stove: Coleman Peak 1 Feather 442
Fuel: Coleman white gas
Wind: light breezes
Air temp: 49°
Pot: 1 liter stainless steel with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: 2 minutes 15 seconds

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Stove: Sierra Stove with homemade pot stand
Fuel: Cedar
Weather: Light breezes with light rain
Air temp: 51°
Pot: 1 liter stainless steel with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: 2 minutes 15 seconds

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Notes:
For those that aren’t familiar with this stove, it is a wood/other solid fuel burner, with a battery powered fan assist. The battery pack I have takes a AA battery, and has a switch allowing lo/off/hi for the fan.

I haven’t used this stove for a while. I used cedar as fuel because it was handy at the time. If memory serves me correctly, boil times with mixed found downed fuels have been longer, but not by much. The key to quick boil times with the Sierra stove is to get the fire really going first, and then put the pot on.

I made a pot stand out of aluminum angle iron to allow feeding of the fire while a pot was on. A few cedar pieces were fed into the stove during this test.

Pic of cedar pieces used in Sierra stove:
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The Sierra stove is great, but it really blackens the pots. I did not used the dish soap trick to reduce pot blackening for this test.
 
Jetboil PCS for comparison
Stove: Jetboil (with its own pot)
Fuel: Jetboil
Wind: Light breezes
Air temp: 50°
Pot: 1 liter stainless steel with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: 4 minutes

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Notes:
I have used the Jetboil setup in summer/ warm temps, and I have achieved fast (less than 2 minutes) boil times for 16 oz of water. The fancy heat exchanger on the proprietary Jetboil pot seems to have made a marginal difference in today’s temps/conditions. Really though, I can’t help but blame the nature of the fuel as the main contributing factor of the Jetboil. I have used canister stoves in ambient temps such as those experienced today before, and I have found that if I wrap my hands around the fuel canister in an attempt to warm the canister while the stove is going, output is increased, and water boils faster.

Just for fun, because I had it handy…
Stove: Trangia in Swedish mess kit pot stand
Fuel: 2 oz denatured alcohol
Winds: light breezes
Temp: 51°
Pot: Swedish Mess Kit stainless steel pot with lid
Water amount: 16 oz
Boil time: ~9 minutes

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Final notes:

Test helpers:
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All stoves were ignited using a Mil-Spec Plus fire steel, procured through The Sportsman’s Guide. These have always worked very well for me (after some minor adjustments to the scraper):
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The Sierra stove was started with a cotton ball I had partially saturated with melted candle wax and stuff in a plastic film canister several years ago. The wax made for a hard cotton ball thingie, but since the entire cotton ball wasn’t full of wax, it did put apart nicely to expose lots of little fibers which took the first spark off the steel.
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It burned plenty long, and I did not need any other tinder to ignite the cedar pieces.

Thanks for looking.
 
Cool review dude. Those sterno stoves work great as wood burning stoves in a pinch.

I gotta get me one of those coleman stoves. Looks like a great stove and good performance to boot.

Cheers

JC
 
Thank you and What kind of spider is that?

Not sure of the proper name for the spider, but we've always called them wolf spiders. The make tunnel-like webs. I do not believe they are poisonous, and they don't seem to be too agressive. They are fast, however. When I occasionally find them in the house, usually the basement, I catch them in a glass and move them outdoors. For some reason, this spider can't climb up glass, or even out of bath tubs and sink basins.
 
cool test,
I have the pocket rocket and campingaz canister stove a similar coleman, Optimus 123r, 8r, 111b msr dragonfly and several other stoves, But use my trangia 27 it is slower but I just like it. I don't mind the slow quiet when cooking out camping
 
Great review! I love my Sierra Stove. Soot is a problem, but I overlook it because I really like being able just use whatever fuel is laying around. Works really well with charcoal, too; a few pieces are pretty easy to tote just in case dry stuff would be hard to find. Cinders from old fires work as well. That Coleman has been on my list for a while too.
 
Neat - very thorough review. Man, do you ever have a lot of stoves! I've always avoided the canister ones because of the difficulty getting canisters. So my stoves are white gas based or propane based cannister ones. I hate the latter but it has its conveniences too. I was very surprised by the Jetboil system. I thought those ones would have been the fastest.
 
Great review hikeeba!
inspired me to try a stove i forgot i had.
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(not my pic)
Don't know the correct name but i just call it the Swiss bottle stove.
Bought it back in may for $15 at an army surplus store.
Used it once, like a hobo stove, fed it twigs and small branches, took a long time to boil.
Its not very wide so you are limited to very small short twigs.
My old coffee can hobo stove works sooooo much better, mostly because it is substantially wider.
Saw one of these Swiss bottle stoves on ebay today. The listing mentions using tea candles?
So today i tried that using 3 tea candles, 15 minutes later water was still only room temp.
Sooo next tried three coghlan fuels tabs, this time it boiled 500ml of water in about 9 minutes.
With the fuel tabs it works but the bottom of the cooker gets very hot as it is not raised off the ground.
I had it on a piece of scrap wood and it quite blackened it.
Anybody here use one of these kits?
Any hints about its use? Haven't seen much about it on the net.
Don't know if i want to keep using the aluminum bottle that comes with it, might try to find a steel version that fits.
I've also been thinking about getting one of those BCB Nato water bottle/Crusader cup/cooker kits which are a lot more compact than the Swiss set.
Actually started a thread about that recently, its somewhere on the back-pages of W&SS.
 
Hi everyone. Thanks for all the positive comments.

As I mentioned, I, too, was surprised by the Jetboil. Out of the three different canister stoves, it had the poorest showing. I can't help wonder if it is the Jetboil fuel. I have used the Jetboil system on camping trips, but only during the summer months. It has always boiled 2 cups of water easily under 2 minutes.

Before I stow the stoves away again, I think what I will do is try the Jetboil stove with the Snow Peak and MSR fuel canister, to see if that makes any difference. I will also try the Jetboil fuel with the other stoves. I'll try to get this done this weekend.
 
Great review. Was just about to purchase the jetboil....going to have to reevaluate now.
 
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