A few different stoves

I have a brunton raptor - has a pezo lighter.
One thing to check out is the canister gas - some have more propane than others - better in colder conditions.
It is easy to make a windscreen out of aluminum pans.
 
thanks for posting the results :)

one possible reason on the poorer performance of the Jetboil is the fuel- makers often vary the % of propane/isobutane

I've been using a Giga for sometime now with very good luck (non-winter), but have recently purchased a tiny WetFire ti stove combined w/ Esbit tabs- not expecting the same performance, but hope it's at least acceptable
 
mtwarden said:
thanks for posting the results :)

one possible reason on the poorer performance of the Jetboil is the fuel- makers often vary the % of propane/isobutane
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The propane/isobutane mix only makes a difference in temperatures below 15 degrees (I think) and then only after all the propane has been used. Propane has a boiling point below 0 (I don't know the exact # - it might be -20); isobutane boiling point is somewhere around +15 - you can search for the exact numbers.
 
Great review. I love my Jetboil, but those pocket rockets look great too.
 
I like this thread and great pic's thanks :) I've collected many stoves (another sicness along with my knives) although never timed their efficiency (makes me want to now). My favourite would have to be the Svea 123. Unfortunately the burner area is a bit small and not really a "match" for the gas stoves which are pretty impressive :o
 
dartanyon said:
I like this thread and great pic's thanks :) I've collected many stoves (another sicness along with my knives) although never timed their efficiency (makes me want to now). My favourite would have to be the Svea 123. Unfortunately the burner area is a bit small and not really a "match" for the gas stoves which are pretty impressive :o
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+1 for great review and pics.
and
+1 for the lover of Svea 123. :)

Thanks for sharing, hikeeba!!
 
Awesome! The pocket rocket put up the second best time, and it only weighs 3 oz.
I love mine, glad to see how well it did against other stoves.

I use mine with the snow peak gigapower fuel though.

Would it be possible, since you have both fuels to run a test with the pocket rocket side by side using both fuels to see if there is any significant difference?
 
stingray4540 said:
Would it be possible, since you have both fuels to run a test with the pocket rocket side by side using both fuels to see if there is any significant difference?
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I will do that as soon as I have an opportunity. I'd like to run the three different fuels through all three stoves.

dextersp1 said:
The propane/isobutane mix only makes a difference in temperatures below 15 degrees (I think) and then only after all the propane has been used. Propane has a boiling point below 0 (I don't know the exact # - it might be -20); isobutane boiling point is somewhere around +15 - you can search for the exact numbers.
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My impression regarding how the isobutane/propane fuel mixtures work is that as the ambient temp decreases, so will the performance of the stove. Like you mentioned, it has something to do with the ambient temp being closer to the boiling point of the gases invloved. Like I mentioned earlier, I have used canister stoves in cooler weather 9not the Jetboil, though), and found that if I wrap my warm, bare hands around the canister while the stove is going, output does seem to increase somewhat.


I find stoves interesting and fun. :)
 
Good post, I enjoyed it. As for the blackened pots, it actually improves them. Heat transfer is aided. Just clean off the loose soot that would otherwise make a mess in your kit, and leave it at that.
 
hikeeba said:
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A little off-topic but...what kind of gloves are they?
Been looking to buy some sturdy outdoors/winter type gloves.
 
hikeeba said:
My impression regarding how the isobutane/propane fuel mixtures work is that as the ambient temp decreases, so will the performance of the stove. Like you mentioned, it has something to do with the ambient temp being closer to the boiling point of the gases invloved. Like I mentioned earlier, I have used canister stoves in cooler weather 9not the Jetboil, though), and found that if I wrap my warm, bare hands around the canister while the stove is going, output does seem to increase somewhat.
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I have the Brunton Raptor and put an aluminum windscreen around it that reaches down to the canister - it helps in warming the canister in cold weather - be careful not to overheat the canister.
 
i was talking to my local camping store rep about jetboil and they mentioned a lot of people complaining about cold, winter use, and one of the blends turning partially to liquid, and "settles" to the bottom, so, it will never burn... could use it later in warm weather - maybe... same for MSR

the solution? there's a new model jetboil system with the fuel container UPSIDE DOWN, thus feeding liquid out, as long as there is [partial] pressure. it also features a fuel pre-heat just like the whisperlites. better, but yet available for their coffee/java system.

he also said what some people do is warm the fuel can inside their jacket, until they need it, boil a bit of water first, and pour that into a pan, and then immerse the fuel can into the warm water, and/or use a chemical heat pack UNDER the unit to keep it warm enough and keep the whole unit off the snow/ice - use a pad or board, or anything. a heat // wind ring around the base as well helps *a lot*... so, a bit more work, but off you go.

seems to me for winter camping, my old whisperlite is the least complex method, and the fuel is already liquid, so it's going to work in temps colder than i want to go out in.

for spring/summer/fall though, the jetboil is my coffee pathway :)


Bladite
 
Looks like the Pocket Rocket did great...I've been looking at those for a while, so that made up my mind. It's awfully compact for the performance, and it doesn't cost much either. :)
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
Looks like the Pocket Rocket did great...I've been looking at those for a while, so that made up my mind. It's awfully compact for the performance, and it doesn't cost much either. :)
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The Rocket is a great stove. I've used it on many a winter day in all but extreme cold with no issues. Paired with the Titan kettle, it makes a great solo combo.

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very surprised on how well the jetboil did, ive used my friends many a time even in sideways rain and cold temps with snow and i never had a single problem with it
 
Howdy all,

Eventhough I have been away from this forum for a while, it has remained near and dear to my heart.

I recently acquired a new Svea 123r, so someday soon I will be dredging up this thread and doing another stove comparison set. I will say that in its maiden outing, the little Svea did boil water pretty quickly in a near freezing temp environment. It probably helped quite a bit that the water temp was not at near-freezing temp (derp!).
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And as for packability, the Svea 123r almost fits completely inside my Snow Peak Trek700 pot:
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That is one cool little stove, the Svea 123r. I've had my eye on those for years, but the near $100 price always made me hesitate. I had a little spending funds recently, happened to think of the Svea 123r, did a Google shopping search, and ta-da! I think my camp stove collection is complete now (but an old Optimus Hiker would be cool!).



stingray4540 said:
Would it be possible, since you have both fuels to run a test with the pocket rocket side by side using both fuels to see if there is any significant difference?
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hikeeba said:
I will do that as soon as I have an opportunity. I'd like to run the three different fuels through all three stoves.
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I actually did this - I ran all three fuels through all three canister stoves in the same conditions - but I seem to have misplaced the data. I will search again, but if I can't find my notes, I will do the experiement again.


tholiver said:
A little off-topic but...what kind of gloves are they?
Been looking to buy some sturdy outdoors/winter type gloves.
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Sorry my response is so late tholiver. The gloves are Ringers Short Cuff Extrication Gloves. They have no insulation, and are intended to serve as basic hand protection and to augment grip. They are sturdy, but they are all nylon, and not very fire-friendly. Yeah... And that is why I was wearing them while playing with stoves. :confused: I was careful, though. Really.
 
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