i wanted to share this info. with all of you, i found out a great way to make your knives a razor sharp cutting machine. First, this can only be done with plain edge knives, and knives with a relatively straight blade, not knives like the Civilian, or any other odd shaped blade. Here it is, sharpen your knife on a fine grit dmt diamond stone until you have the "meat-cutting" edge, then, if you have a FORMICA table-(only the white smooth formica) get the knife and strope it on the formica from handle to tip, try this until you get a really shaving sharp edge, im telling you it works great, especially on a bowie like the trailmaster, or a benchmade afck.