A little disturbing

SouthernCross said:
Also, is there any relationship between the number of senseless killings that are reported in the media from the US and the idea that everyone has the right to kill?

Mick
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I thought upnorth was from Canada? Also injecting politics in this thread probably won't end well.
 
I used to shoot squirrels and birds with my .22 as a kid for no real reason. Not something I would do now a days, we do strange things as kids. I would really only be worried if he was torturing them, cutting them in to bits and pieces and playing with the parts etc...

Leaving the rifle and all the knives there is just plain stupid though. I knew enough even as a kid not to leave things around, not only for safety but also because they could be stolen. I wasn't spoiled with parents who would just replace things I broke or lost so I took care of the things I owned.
 
I guess I am the only guy on earth who has had respect for other life his entire life-- I have never taken a life for any reason other than to eat, never for pleasure or curiosity , never as a child or as an adult.

Every life you touch, you will live entire.
how you treat the least of these you also treat me.


/mysticism aside agree with other posters that to take the dangerous goods and perhaps report to local property owner
 
Woods Walker said:
Take everything. Shooting song birds aside leaving a loaded weapon out like that, even a pellet gun shows a total lack of concern for others. Take it and all the rest.
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I considered it for a few seconds. The sights were munched on the front blade and the back was non existent. So this basically says child\youth to me. I lent out an air gun to some native kids up north when I was finished with grouse and waiting for Ptarmigans to come down. A guy brought it back because he said that the kids were being too rough with it. Ya, they were rough with it alright. It came back in about the same shape as this ''den'' gun. I patched mine up and put a 4x scope on it, killed Ptarmigan all winter and never lent it out again. I tried to contact the Church early this morning, but it was too early, 8am, and I got a message. I want to speak voice with someone so that they know exactly were this mess is, right under their noses and about 200 feet from a building. The knives were pot metal made in China stuff. Part of me was saying, leave this and the kid alone, but the vibe isn't right.
 
I used to shoot birds and squirrels with my Red Ryder when I was a kid. Never messed with their corpses. Looking back I feel bad since I do believe you shouldn't kill anything that you don't intend to eat aside from pest control issues but I was a kid, all my friends did it, we would see who could hit the most and who was the best shot. We were kids being kids, none of us grew up to be serial killers. I don't condone it at all, but it was what plenty of kids did when I was growing up. When I think of future serial killers, I think of a kid that would microwave a cat or something sick like that. Not kids shooting birds with a BB gun.
 
I got hold of the bible school folks. I looked today and the knives, box cutters are still scattered around, but some dead birds and the air gun are gone.
 
Taking a step back, there could be a non-boogieman explanation.

Multiple knives could mean multiple kids.

Small birds were often used for pike fishing...big pike.


I don't mean to make lite of the situation, it should be verified carefully, but care should be given to not jump to conclusions.
 
I didn`t know there were so many psychologist here.
But I agree..
Clearly this boy must be hunted Down and locked up (or even maybe put to rest).

Or




May be modern man needs to grow a serious pair.
If such Things scare the crap out of you......... Jesus
 
I would agree that its quite a disturbing find.. And it does reek of a kids doing.


Had it been me who found that mess I would have taken the sharps and the pellet rifle and handed them to the land owner, let them call the police, parents etc etc. Looks like an accident waiting to happen otherwise..specially leaving a gun loaded and cocked in the woods! *shudders*

I know a few have said 'serial killer' and it is what I though too. In fact it reminded me of several messed up things we came across as kids..

My buddy found a frog nailed to a board, like a crusafix that had then been burnt to death and its guts pulled out.. We actually found out later on who done it and this kid was f'd up. He tortured chickens, cut out their eggs while they were till alive, hung them over fires and even cooked up 'bodily fluids' to feed to his dog..

High grade loony tune! Guess what he done at school? (Other than throwing fireworks and kids) he shot a girl in the face wit a pellet gun! She had the pellet removed from under her scalp by a Dr later that day.. Not sure if this person will end up as dangerously deranged as the lad I knew, but its atleast worth mentioning to the church folk!
 
Very interesting post. I'm a gun owner, carrier and general gun enthusiast. I am also a military veteran, hunter and former law enforcement officer. My input here is that nobody know the age of the owner of that gear. My issue would be having left a loaded firearm (bb gun or otherwise) unattended and unsecured. The birds, box cutters and knives left laying are also an unnerving sight. Hate to say this, but I would have alerted the authorities and let them sort it out. The issue is being over cautious and not wanting to rib a kid messing around versus having had the opportunity to stop a future school shooting by having made the report in the first place.
 
I wasn't able to see the pics but I have a different position. My dad was not a hunter. When I got my first bow and arrow (blue suction cups and all) at around age 4 I stalked the neighbors cat when it was in my yard and it learned to stay out of my range. I later cut my teeth shooting birds with the bb gun at around age 6. I still remember the first one I killed. I cried and had a little funeral to bury it. A week later I was back chasing them. Before long it was also rabbits, squirrels and ground hogs. Eventually, around the age of 12 I graduated to a single shot, shot gun and began hunting with an uncle. Now I hunt and harvest food on a regular basis and have taught my children.

My point is young predators (including human being) will hunt out of instinct. Ever watch a kitten? There is a good chance somewhere in the area there is a young boy with an inborn hunting instinct and no male role model to teach him. Being raised by a single mom or having a metrosexual as a father could be a real set back for a young man. I would however be concerned about a boy involved in obvious torture of animals. To be honest dismemberment wouldn't concern me too much though. We would shoot a dove, eat the breast meat over a campfire and save the wings and tail feathers as a primitive taxidermy like trophy. We even mounted them on boards to hang up. Mom didn't really like those in the house and they were relegated to the outside.

I would be hesitant to contact the authorities and trying to get this kid labeled as a psycho/game law violator. Who knows it might send him off the deep end and cause him to eat his cheese sandwich into the shape of a gun at school :) . I would be more likely to buy the kid a book on hunting and sportsmanship, put it in a waterproof bag and leave it where he will find it.
Josh

Ps. To all the "kids should only hunt what they eat" folks. Ask yourself how many mom's these days would cook something or even allow it in the kitchen that came from the woods or field.
 
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j_d said:
I wasn't able to see the pics but I have a different position. My dad was not a hunter. When I got my first bow and arrow (blue suction cups and all) at around age 4 I stalked the neighbors cat when it was in my yard and it learned to stay out of my range. I later cut my teeth shooting birds with the bb gun at around age 6..
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Granted i'm a little late to the party but wanted to offer my .02 I agree with J_D, the gun could have been bought from another kid and stashed in the "den" because the kids mom is against firearms ownership. Same could go for the knives, just things that the kid scavenged and hid so they wouldn't be taken away from him. I suppose the kid could be a real nutter though and the issue of it being on private property raises concern for the land owner. I think that notifying the school was a good idea, I personally would have turned over the bb gun and knives to an adult.
 
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