A little help - 942 Axis or Sebenza?

Geode

Geode

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Hey, all!

Your input would be appreciated, especially those of you who have both BM Axis lock knives and Sebenzas.

I can only have one of these for Father's day, and have never handled the Sebenza. I already own a Griptilian and love the Axis lock. Let me know what you think.

Thanks!
 
There is no comparison Geo... The Sebenza! It is all together a superior knife...

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I would have to agree the Sebenza is a very nice knife, give into it. It will hurt only for a second
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I own a BM 940 and a large CRK Sebenza. Which is "better" does depend on what you want.

The Sebenza is a an elegantly-designed tank. It is beautifully made and it should hold up under rough use, but it is somewhat heavy and blocky in the pocket. It feels good in the hand and has an amazingly smooth action.

The 940 is a much lighter and slimmer knife. It looks quite attractive and stylish (I love both the green and the blue finishes). It fits the shape of the human hand nicely and also has a very smooth action.

For pure function I prefer the Sebenza, although the 940 is quite capable too.

For looks I prefer the 940, although the Sebenza isn't bad looking. (And the decorated Sebenzas are beautiful.)

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I don't own a BM, but the Sebenza is the best knife I've ever handled. And I"ve handled a bunch of 'em.

Paul
 
I bought two of the blue 940s. One to carry, and a spare since I liked it so much.
I bought a small Sebenza.
Sold both of the 940s (just sold the used one today).

I love the 940, but found that I liked the small Seb even more, and the 940 was getting left at home.
Both are great knives, and I'd recommend either. You can get a 940 for less than half (maybe a third) the price of a Sebenza, so it's not really apples to apples.
 
Not even close. Go for the Sebenza.
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This is not a knock on the 940. The Sebenza is just in a class by itself.

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Geode,

I have both a 940 and a small Sebenza. They are both light, have good steel and are well made. The Axis lock is great, it's got that 'toy factor', fun to play with.
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These two knives are now my every day carries. If I had to pick one though...the choice would be very easy.

Better materials, better craftsmanship and, "Hey, is that a gray turd in your pocket.", all point to one thing.

Sebenza.


Steve-O
 
Everday tasks aside, let's say you had to choose one to use for defense in an emergency.

The 940's blade is 3.4", overall length 7.87". The small Sebenza's overall length is also 7.875", but its blade is 2.875".

I know neither of these is an ideal "tactical" knife, but which one from that viewpoint?
 
If you can only have one ship the other one my way. BTW very nice gift from whomever. Sure beats a tie.
 
Have you done a price comparison yet? A Sebenza costs $300. The Osborne is a perfectly good knife.
 
Geode, if you search through the forums, you will find very few, if any, bad remarks about the 940. Everyone I've talked to agrees it's an excellent knife.

There's still no comparison. The Sebenza is a better knife, with better materials, better workmanship.

Johnny - The large Sebenza has a 3.5" blade and a more secure (for me) handle than the 940. The only edge the 940 has for combat applications is that it's quicker to open and amibdextrous.

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Dudes,

I should have said that I know the large Sebbie is $300 and the Osborne about $100. Believe it or not, the real issue is that I do not want too many knives.

One thing about the Sebbie that spooked me is a thread I read about counter-clockwise torque on the blade causing the integral lock to disengage, and that this would even happen with a Mayo TNT (too much$$ for me!). So I am also comparing the safety of the locking mechanisms.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Geode:
Dudes,
Believe it or not, the real issue is that I do not want too many knives.</font>
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The Sebenza is all you'll ever need!

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One thing about the Sebbie that spooked me is a thread I read about counter-clockwise torque on the blade causing the integral lock to disengage, and that this would even happen with a Mayo TNT (too much$$ for me!). So I am also comparing the safety of the locking mechanisms.</font>
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Never heard of that. I will say that you rarely see any complaints about the Sebenza. Chris Reeves has an excellant customer service second to none!


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I would not give a second thought to the lock disengaging you read about. I read that thread too and as I recall one guy seemed to have found some way to torque it to get it to disengage. I've messed about with mine enough to sincerely believe that it would take a really unusual motion with a really bad grip to get this to happen.

I've not messed about with an axis lock much but I should think that under the right circumstances you could position your grip and put the right motion on an Axis to get the button to move an disengage.

If you want a knife that 100% won't close up on you then get a fixed blade. The integral lock is safe and solid. I wouldn't give it another thought.

As an aside...I'd imagine that a Sebenza would have better resale if you ever decide to get rid of it.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Geode:
Dudes,

I should have said that I know the large Sebbie is $300 and the Osborne about $100. Believe it or not, the real issue is that I do not want too many knives.</font>
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I believe it.

The one complaint I hear from a lot of Sebenzanistas -- including myself -- is that the Sebenza spoils us for carrying any other knife.

Even my BM 730 Ares got packed away, and I bought that one so I wouldn't have to carry my large Sebenza all the time. The Ares is a beautiful knife, slick, solid, smooth, but it just didn't measure up. The Sebenza is a machine for cutting. It is a precision instrument.
 
Both great knives. Go with the Sebenza. If you don't like it(it could happen) you could sell it, get a 942 and have money left over.
 
Yeah, what you describe below works but you have to keep the blade stationary before you torque clockwise for a left-hander, and counter clockwise for a right-hander. What usually happens is that the index finger drags across the locking bar, thus disengaging the blade.

However, also realize that this is an unnatural scenario. To keep the blade stationary, you either have to be holding it firm or have stabbed it into wood, for example, or be in the process of prying something. In other words, I wouldn't worry about disengaging an integral lock unless you're using your knife for something similar to the above.

The Sebenza has a simple yet strong design, and can be taken apart and cleaned by the user without "voiding" the warranty. This knife is also a perfect pathway for your next journey towards the realm of customs - a TNT being a perfect next step.

Jerome

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Geode:

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One thing about the Sebbie that spooked me is a thread I read about counter-clockwise torque on the blade causing the integral lock to disengage, and that this would even happen with a Mayo TNT (too much$$ for me!). So I am also comparing the safety of the locking mechanisms.</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Esav Benyamin:
I believe it.

The one complaint I hear from a lot of Sebenzanistas -- including myself -- is that the Sebenza spoils us for carrying any other knife.</font>
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Absolutely!

I can identify with not wanting too many, also.
I'm getting rid of all my folders except for my pair of customs (which I love more than words are adequate for
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btw, I am really sold on the integral lock, too.

 
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