a month in the bush

The concept would have been more interesting, and believable, if they had just brought some basic set of equipment with them. Like not just a knife, but also a firesteel, and a pot, a wool blanket and some cordage.
 
Aww... someone pony up the 9.95 Canadian and fill us in on their trials and tribulations! I can't believe you googlemeisters haven't scrubbed up reports from other forums!

Codger


Lions and tigers and bears! Oh my!! :D
 
AustinTXShooter said:
Exactly. They have a third person stocked with supplies and are apparently close enough to town so that the third person can drive into town each day and upload the video. Each day when they get cold or hungry, they can just turn the cameras off and do whatever they want. As soon as the third person with supplies joined the team, it completely threw all their creditability out the window. They wanted to be like their hero, Bear Gryllis, and now they can be just like him and try and pull the wool over everyones eyes and get us to think they are actually there with only a knife.
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Seems you've set these guys up to fail, if they make it, you get to say "told you so, they turned off the camera and ate."
If they fail, you are right again. Remember, you haven't met these guys and IMHO anyone undertaking a noble task such as this, regardless of how skilled they are or what they are charging, has to be given the benefit of the doubt.

Weather they will fail or not, I can't say. If it was me, I would at least take a chopping blade and a sak (with a saw, say the farmer), firesteel, and fishing line and hooks. I would never attempt it myself without that gear, and I would take a disposable camera and write a journal, then write a book about it.
 
Liam, you do make a good point but if you go back through the (ugh) Bear Girlz threads you'll find that his integrity was called into question here long before news hit the world about his Hawaiian adventures and such. As I recall, it was people here with much more 'dirt time' than I who were simply pointing out that he seemed fresh as a daisy after supposedly going without for a week.

To the average tv viewer/newspaper reader, these two just being alive at the end of it would be monumental, but I think many of these guys will hear whether or not their tales ring true.

But that's just my .02 - I know I couldn't do it ! Given your location, I bet you've got some experience in your pocket. I wish them the best of luck, but I think it's foolish as hell. Then again, I just read the Chris McCandless story too.......
 
I've been watching these guys.

They are doing pretty good considering the hardships they have had.

Clearly they have some bushcraft knowhow.

I get the sense that they are doing this honestly, no cheating and
being true to the goal.

It's interesting to watch and not bad entertainment for 10 bucks.
 
Why are some people taking such exception to this? Its no skin off any of our back, if you dont like it, ignore it. Talk about over reaction if they need to be evacuated; rescue worker getting killed? LOLPLZ.

Good for them for trying to make a buck of something interesting and (relatively) creative. There's enough damn bums in manitoba (and everywhere for that matter) who actually hassle you for free money.

That being said, it's wet and pretty chilly in southern manitoba today, and the weather has been fair at best for the last two weeks, theres only been a couple sunny days.
 
Sketchbag,

Judging by your comments you have no experience with Search and Rescue operations. If you did you would not be brushing aside the concerns and considerations of others who have posted. I don't know what the SAR resources for Manitoba Canada are but in the United States the SAR community is made up of volunteers. These volunteers donate their time without pay, purchase all of their own equipment, and pay for a large part of their training. Additionally SAR teams do not charge for their services. If an ambulance or Life Flight is utilized and any hospital fees incurred you do pay for but these services are not provided by SAR organizations.
In some states if SAR personnel are injured or damage/lose gear those expenses also come out of our pocket. While there have not been any fatalities that I am aware of I know that SAR personnel get injured all the time. A friend and colleague of mine was injured just this summer during a very technically challenging rescue involving terrain that included several cliffs and waterfalls. Also a searcher broke a leg last winter during the search for James Kim in Oregon.
As a member of the SAR community I gladly donate my time and services to search for and rescue those who are in need of it. The SAR community understands that crap does happen and we don't mind helping people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. What we don't appreciate is sticking our lives on the line for people who intentionally put themselves at risk by doing a multitude of stupid things. Amongst these are intentionally going into the woods poorly equipped just to make a buck, hunters who consume a six pack of beer before going hunting and drink more beer while hunting and then get lost and injured, or getting stranded and having to be rescued and then going back for your gear that was left behind and then having to be rescued a second time. The list goes on and I'm sure others could add to the list of incredibly stupidity they have witnessed during a SAR mission.
Consider the impact on not only yourself but others before heading out to the woods. When venturing into the outdoors you need to be prepared for anything. The other thing is to think about what it is your getting ready to do and evaluate its risk before engaging in the activity. If the activity is a high risk sport the correct equipment needs to be used to reduce the chance of injury and/or death. We really hate filling body bags.

James 61
 
I dismiss because it's evident their very close to a road, and the terrain here doesnt pose the tactical challenges that mention, its very flat. Dont get me wrong, I have all the respect for SAR workers, but this just isnt the extreme situation that some have made it out to be, its not even like they seeking out danger, all indications are that they want to stay in one spot conserve themselves. Lets not forget there's a fully equipped camera man on hand too.
 
sketchbag said:
I dismiss because it's evident their very close to a road, and the terrain here doesnt pose the tactical challenges that mention, its very flat. Dont get me wrong, I have all the respect for SAR workers, but this just isnt the extreme situation that some have made it out to be, its not even like they seeking out danger, all indications are that they want to stay in one spot conserve themselves. Lets not forget there's a fully equipped camera man on hand too.
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When we were criticizing them for potentially putting SAR crews at risk, it was before they admitted they were going to be close to a road and have a camera crew on hand. At the time we said those comments, they were supposed to be by themselves in a remote portion of Northern Canada with only a knife. Now that we know they are near a town and have a cameraman with them there is certainly much less risk involved.
 
So they are near a decent road, which leads to a town close by? Hmmmmm. They have a back up plan. They are balancing the risk of trying to do 30 days with only one each knives by having a pretty fair back up plan, i.e. everybody piles into the car and goes to town. No SAR's will be needed to risk all with a wife and baby at home. No promising young guys have to die needlessly. It's pretty smart, actually. They aren't complete fools, which is the basic misimpression I got initially. I would NOT pay to see some someone do obviously stupid jackassical nonsense, but if they aren't in all that much Darwin_Award_Worthy danger then that would be okay, I'd say. If they are honestly attempting to "do it all" (in comfort) with just a cheap knife - that might be worth $10 or so. I'd like to see that. Maybe I will.
 
Anyone ever hear any news about these guys or watch their movie? There is a banner on their website stating that they lasted 13 days...
 
jett1 said:
I've been watching these guys.

They are doing pretty good considering the hardships they have had.

Clearly they have some bushcraft knowhow.

I get the sense that they are doing this honestly, no cheating and
being true to the goal.

It's interesting to watch and not bad entertainment for 10 bucks.
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Pal, me thinks yer' sittin' too close to a poorly drafting woodstove:jerkit: and might be related to one of them:jerkit:
 
While there have not been any fatalities that I am aware of I know that SAR personnel get injured all the time.
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One of the older members of my unit has personally known two SAR-techs who died on search missions.
 
What's that? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? Well, then Les Stroud must be grinning from ear to ear since he was the first real TV wilderness suvivialist IIRC. There's always folks who copy, and now with Idiot Tube anyone can be a 'star'. I'll leave the carnival sideshows to those with less important things to do.
 
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